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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: TerryMcGuire
WHAT?!?!
No way you really believe that....
Remember the “fire and fury” bluff that Kim instantly called???
This is trump about to give Kim Trillions to NOT GET RID OF HIS NUCLEAR PROGRAM.
originally posted by: Carcharadon
originally posted by: amazing
It seems to me that South Korea and North Korea have been working on this for the last couple of years...witness what they did at the last winter Olympics.. This isn't trump, this is North and South Korea working together without any outside interference or influence. And really only those two and make this work.
And yet the leader of S.Korea explicitly states that Trump played a big part in this. Who to believe? The leader of S.Korea or some anonymous dorks on a message board?
Pretty tough call there.
Watching the twisted logic play out is truly fascinating.
It's funny to read a bunch of Trump haters basically saying the leader of S.Korea knows less than they do about North/South relations and negotiations.
Never change guys. Never change.
originally posted by: TritonTaranis
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: TerryMcGuire
This is trump about to give Kim Trillions to NOT GET RID OF HIS NUCLEAR PROGRAM.
Lmao you're so jealous and bitter Trump will be in the history books, typical liberal lefty blinded by hate
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: amazing
South Korea, and North Korea have, of course, been the major players. It's, after all, their countries.
To call the roll the US played, along with other UN members, small would be a mistake.
There's no way to know, of course, but what might have happened if the US/UN hadn't been there? I'm thinking bad things, such as an invasion from the North. They didn't because of the US presence.
originally posted by: The GUT
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
So how is Trump even partially responsible?!?!
I dunno exactly how, but the South Korean President gave President Trump "Big credit" for the talks.
I'd say Moon Jae-In carries a little more weight than you without any doubt.
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: amazing
Trump is mentioned because he is the sitting President. That's the only reason. Had it been Obama, or Nixon, or whomever, that'd be the name mentioned.
I, in no way, think that Trump is deserving of some form of special thanks. Do I think his tactics were better than Obama's? Yes, I do. But that's as far as it goes.
Truth is, the general attitude towards North Korea by the United States hasn't really changed that drastically--some, yes, but in its essence it hasn't changed much at all in the past 60 plus years.
Think about this, this is coming to a head, possibly, after well over half a century of Cold War--this is the last remnants of the first Cold War--and it's coming to an end, maybe, in the same way the Cold War between the USSR/Warsaw Pact, and the Western Allies/NATO did. Economic implosion. I'm guessing, and that's all it is, that North Korea is coming to the table because they've no other choice in the matter... When people get hungry enough, cold enough, they're going to start getting angry. Angry people tend not to worship at the shrine of the Personality Cult.
In my not so humble opinion, using the word Trump is a stand in for United States and the other allies who've had South Korea's back.
It's possible, maybe even likely, that I'm wrong...but this is how I'm reading the whole situation. This is the late 1980's on a smaller scale.
originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
originally posted by: The GUT
originally posted by: JoshuaCox
So how is Trump even partially responsible?!?!
I dunno exactly how, but the South Korean President gave President Trump "Big credit" for the talks.
I'd say Moon Jae-In carries a little more weight than you without any doubt.
Is Moon Jae-In a member of the Unification Church?
originally posted by: samuelsson
a reply to: CryHavoc
Because it happened so many times in the past without outside influence? SK president thanked Trump because he thought he made it possible.p
originally posted by: amazing
originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: amazing
South Korea, and North Korea have, of course, been the major players. It's, after all, their countries.
To call the roll the US played, along with other UN members, small would be a mistake.
There's no way to know, of course, but what might have happened if the US/UN hadn't been there? I'm thinking bad things, such as an invasion from the North. They didn't because of the US presence.
I see what you're saying but we've had forces in South Korea for Decades and decades. Trump didn't put them there. Not hating on Trump, just saying that we need to look at what's really going on. Shouldn't we really be thanking Truman and Eisenhower? They put the troops there.
originally posted by: Whereismypassword
a reply to: UKTruth
We will see how popular trump is when he comes to England in July
I wonder if he will do a little curtesy to the queen like he did the king of Saudi Arabia