Bad news for Climate Change.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Don't forget the sea ice, there's more to melt away than glaciers.

Are you of the opinion that sea ice melting results in higher sea levels?
If you are, I suggest a simple experiment you can do at home. Glass, marker, ice and water. With those simple objects you can perform your own experiment to prove or disprove your hypothesis.

a reply to: NorthernLites

sea levels rise by about 1/16” for every 150 cubic miles of ice that melts off one of the poles.

www.scientificamerican.com...

You don't need to prove every hypothesis òn your own time, or do you? Sometimes there simply aint enough ice in the freezer and the glasses are way too small. My marker should do though, I have a few Eddings to make this happen. Let's do it!

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: NorthernLites

From your linked article:

“That may not sound like a lot, but consider the volume of ice now locked up in the planet’s three greatest ice sheets,” she writes in a recent issue of Scientific American. “If the West Antarctic ice sheet were to disappear, sea level would rise almost 19 feet; the ice in the Greenland ice sheet could add 24 feet to that; and the East Antarctic ice sheet could add yet another 170 feet to the level of the world’s oceans: more than 213 feet in all.” Bell underscores the severity of the situation by pointing out that the 150-foot tall Statue of Liberty could be completely submerged within a matter of decades.

"underscores the severity of the situation"???? Utter bollocks.
There is no way the Antarctica or Greenland Ice Sheets are melting completely away, it's just foolish liberal alarmism that plays to the uneducated and uninformed.

Their inability to predict the climate means they don't fully understand the variables invplved meaning its bunk science until they do

Technically its not science until they have an accurate predictive model

originally posted by: NorthernLites
a reply to: PublicOpinion

Don't forget the sea ice, there's more to melt away than glaciers.

Are you of the opinion that sea ice melting results in higher sea levels?
If you are, I suggest a simple experiment you can do at home. Glass, marker, ice and water. With those simple objects you can perform your own experiment to prove or disprove your hypothesis.

Make the water in the glass saltwater and get back to us.

a reply to: Greven

Since sea ice is frozen sea water, the net result of it thawing back into solution will be zero rise in level.

originally posted by: NorthernLites
a reply to: Greven

Since sea ice is frozen sea water, the net result of it thawing back into solution will be zero rise in level.

Sea ice has much lower salinity as salt is mostly pushed out when it freezes. Saltwater is much denser than freshwater, which changes buoyancy - and thus displacement of water - significantly.

The proposed experiment with freshwater yields what you expect - no change in water level once ice melts.
The proposed experiment with saltwater yields a different result - a small rise in water level once ice melts.

You are changing the argument now, away from the experiment you proposed and to assumed net balance. However, that ignores sea level rise from warming oceans as water expands a little on heating up. Nor do you consider ice from land sources in this new argument.

The experiment changes quite a bit if you start adding ever more ice to the cup.

a reply to: NorthernLites

Here's some information while we're at it:

Antarctic sea ice shrinks to smallest ever extent

The linear rate of decline for April sea ice extent is 37,500 square kilometers (14,500 square miles) per year, or 2.6 percent per decade relative to the 1981 to 2010 average.

nsidc.org...

So you folks ignore the sat data for it's lack of climate models? And I thought you wanna see the raw data, and not some models that would be prone to manipulation. Which is it now?

a reply to: Greven

Buoyancy is water displacement. Melting sea ice will cause no appreciable deviation in sea levels.

There may be a minuscule change... if you add a liter of methanol to a liter of water, you won't get exactly two liters of liquid. That's just how the molecules of different sizes interact. But the difference we would see, due to this effect, if all the sea ice melted is so tiny it would never be noticeable.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

[...]
“That may not sound like a lot, but consider the volume of ice now locked up in the planet’s three greatest ice sheets,” she writes in a recent issue of Scientific American. “If the West Antarctic ice sheet were to disappear, sea level would rise almost 19 feet; the ice in the Greenland ice sheet could add 24 feet to that; and the East Antarctic ice sheet could add yet another 170 feet to the level of the world’s oceans: more than 213 feet in all.” Bell underscores the severity of the situation by pointing out that the 150-foot tall Statue of Liberty could be completely submerged within a matter of decades.

www.scientificamerican.com...

The Statue of Liberty is minuscule as well, given the right distance for a wider perspective and all that.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Bell underscores the severity of the situation by pointing out that the 150-foot tall Statue of Liberty could be completely submerged within a matter of decades.

There is no IPCC scenario that even remotely resembles what you are using as a talking point. You come off looking foolish to everyone that reads your post.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Melting sea ice will cause no appreciable deviation in sea levels.

About 4cm if all of it melted.
academic.oup.com...

a reply to: PublicOpinion

One has to keep the right perspective, or one's theories become just another source of hysteria. Perspective matters.

Phage below has found a speculation that the total rise if all the available sea ice melted would be 4 cm. That is a bit more than I would have thought, but it's in the ballpark of believability. 4 cm is smaller than most waves even on a calm day, and far, far less than a tidal swell.

Perspective matters. A lot.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Phage below has found a speculation that the total rise if all the available sea ice melted would be 4 cm.

Above

a reply to: network dude

Here is an Excellent Presentation by the Renown Randall Carlson , an American Architect, Geological Theorist, and Anthropological Theorist concerning Past Earth Changing Climatic Events and their Catastrophic effects on Earths Climate Today .



www.youtube.com...

a reply to: Phage

It was below when I was typing.

I stand corrected.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TheRedneck

Melting sea ice will cause no appreciable deviation in sea levels.

About 4cm if all of it melted.
academic.oup.com...

Four centimeters?

How tall is the statue of liberty in relation to that?

a reply to: NorthernLites

Yeah. I know you're bad at math. But that's just arithmetic.

a reply to: Phage

Idiots on the alarmist side trying to keep the drive alive about the statue of liberty being underwater, what do you think the average american is a total retard with no critical thinking skills?

Dems are done, come November, all your hopes and dreams of swaying the internets are gone, the masses of people turned out to be much smarter than a few democratic plants spweing lies into the forums.

Oh, forgot, this whole ATS is liberal propaganda lmao.... do your homework people.

Trump is GEOTUS

a reply to: NorthernLites

Oh, forgot, this whole ATS is liberal propaganda lmao.... do your homework people.

Actually, it seems that if anything, there are more conservatives on ATS. And a lot of them support Trump, for some reason.