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Toronto Van Attack Suspect Likely Motivated by "Involuntary Celibacy"

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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:04 PM
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CBC - What We Know About Alek Minassian

So, as is always the case with the sick individuals who incite random violence, it turns out that Alek Minassian, who murdered 10 people and injured 15 using a rented van in Toronto this week, was part of a subset of strange extremists.

Religion? No. Sex, or lack of it was allegedly his hang up.

People, if you feel your child is slipping into real and dangerous social strangeness, help them out!

This is what happens when sex is placed on a pedestal, but is also taboo.
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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

they said it was a rumor that circulating ....and your keeping it going by stating it as fact



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:17 PM
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I'm 100% certain the state of society is degrading by the hour



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

The incel group is just waiting to explode. They ended up getting kicked off reddit and even voat. They mostly relocated into the_Donald, 4chan, and redpill communities though.

It's a bunch of young, really frustrated, neckbeards who are upset that they don't have the tools to function in society... they're the types of people who could easily rally behind a charistmatic leader and turn into a group of violent extremists.
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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

Wow that's ironic. There have been some "He-man woman hater club" threads posted here recently and members pointed out how dangerous these types of people can be. This is a clear illustration of that.

He's in Canada, he just could have gotten an escort. ffs



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: Aazadan

huh? can you explain more?



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:28 PM
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originally posted by: PistolPete
a reply to: Atsbhct

Wow that's ironic. There have been some "He-man woman hater club" threads posted here recently and members pointed out how dangerous these types of people can be. This is a clear illustration of that.

He's in Canada, he just could have gotten an escort. ffs


These problems go beyond getting laid, I don't think that's part of it at all as some of them do regularly use prostitutes. It's that they believe they should have a certain lifestyle... money, significant others, work, friends, and all the rest. But they don't actually have the personality to do this. More than sex, having a girlfriend is the biggest part of it I think.

Interestingly there's a huge cross section of people in this group, who will also have very promiscous gay sex just to try and have some physical intimacy in their lives, even though they're not gay.

More than sex, the problem is that a huge segment of this community gets very wound up over fringe issues, have no social skills, and expect the world to give them everything. For all the millennial snowflake BS that gets tossed around, I think that's actually a good label for the incel crowd.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: Rumrunner

I didn't state it as fact. I used the words "likely" and "allegedly".



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: PistolPete

Especially in Toronto! Sex work is a legitimate profession there.


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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:32 PM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

Funny, no one calls this a terror attack.


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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:33 PM
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originally posted by: Rumrunner
a reply to: Atsbhct

they said it was a rumor that circulating ....and your keeping it going by stating it as fact


Also, who is "they".



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:34 PM
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a reply to: mekhanics

We're referring to it as terrorism/extremism in Canada.

**We being the general public.
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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:35 PM
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originally posted by: mekhanics
a reply to: Atsbhct

Funny, no one calls this a terror attack.


Its a terror attack.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:35 PM
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Well let's see, most 18- 25 yr old women are interested in older men, and are most likely have great grade where as most men don't and have some form of a great career. And will only settle down once they get there first wrinkle at some between 25 an 30, they wanna get married.

All the while the guys living in their moms basement should be grateful because of their savings are safe, and by the time they are thirty they can find there beautiful, yet actually demonic life sucker of a love.

I've met guys who have more money and style then other characters that I know, and can't find a relationship.

This is probably why forced marriages where common and possibly prostitution being the oldest trade Viscous world man.
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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:38 PM
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originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Aazadan

huh? can you explain more?


Sure, online forums are where a lot of these people meetup, discuss, and eventually further radicalize each other. They tend to be attracted to certain forums, on Reddit there is a huge overlap in users between fatpeoplehate, and jailbait. Eventually those people moved to incels. When Trump came along (and I don't want to get too political here) t_D also got a huge amount of crossover with this group.

Given the content on 4chan (/b/ I think it is? I'm not overly familiar with their forum names) there was a lot of posts there too.

About a year ago I think it was, Reddit as part of trying to clean up it's image closed incels (having closed fph and jailbait in previous years) and most of the userbase went over to voat. However, even Voat wouldn't put up with them.

I don't want to dismiss it, it's a very real issue, and is a pretty sizable community... some of my friends even came from this group and eventually got talked out of it by improving their social circle.

That said, it's millions strong, and it mostly consists of a military age, unstable population, that's looking for leadership and a purpose in their lives. It's the sort of thing that can easily be weaponized.

Some of this group finds their way there because of a poor economic outlook, which makes them feel like they can't afford a relationship or a family. Others wind up there because they have personality defects they need to work on. Others are just sexist and are attracted to the group.

Regardless of the reason, it's something we should try and fix. I don't know if you ever browsed their subreddit before they got shut down, if you didn't... go check out redpill now. For as much crap as ATS gets for being fringe these people make ATS look mainstream.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:41 PM
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I have no idea if this was the motivation of this killer or not.

But I do think that this is a potential "group" that could have some members become dangerous.

I think there is a need for a responsible mens right movemnet that seeks to have equality under the law, but I oppose the idea of collective victimhood from this group or any other.

This leads to removal of personal responsibility, and tends to lead to justifications for immoral actions, because the world owes you something.

This is why I am against Idenity politics on the left or the right.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:42 PM
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a reply to: Grambler




Its a terror attack.


It doesn't state on OP's Article.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:46 PM
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i sincerely doubt that 'not getting any' was this individual's primary motivation for his actions. such destructive outbursts would be ten a penny if such was the case, i think.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:46 PM
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The violence is a Symptom of his character, and the inability to romantically relate with another person is also a symptom of his character.
I guess you might put it differently, but what you seem to be saying is: if we had more permiscuous women willing to put out for crazy and violent men, we wouldn’t have violence or mental illness.
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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:46 PM
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a reply to: Atsbhct

lol your right, my bad, you did use 'allegedly' ...the 'they' are the news reporter Diana Swain, in the video from the link you gave




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