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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: theantediluvian

Which wingnuts would those be?

The nazi's going around burning books they don't like called statues.

Or the American taliban destroying cultural icons they don't like?




posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: SKEPTEK

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
a reply to: Plotus
Is this thread gonna be another exercise in Whitesplainin'?



No just WhiteGuiltSplainin now that you are here.
I'm guessing that you are not prepared to expand on that comment. So why bother piping up in the first place?



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: Plotus

A single pillar right down the street from union station and the US capitol building.

An indoor museum tens of thousands of feet, and multiple levels, big that well over a million people visit every year.

And that’s ignoring the fact that you said “why not one for...” Moving the goalposts now doesn’t change the fact that they already exist and you’re trying to work yourself into an outrage using things that aren’t even true.

Laughable.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: Plotus

I honestly don't see what your upset about.

From your link:


We don't have many places in America where we have urged people to look at the history of racial inequality, to look at the history of slavery, of lynching, of segregation," said Stevenson, who is black.


You should have memorials like this in every major city and town in the US! I love the statues and they or replicas should be placed in every town square in the US. This is how you daily shame the greedy, evil US whites who have shamelessly exploited the Black population for generations. By having memorials like this in every city and town, you can parade white children of privilege before them and graphically teach them of the wrongs of their forebears. Pound that into their skulls so they'll never forget their shameful past. This is how you get to Truth and Reconciliation! And in that process, you get to meaningful Reparations!

And what do we mean by "meaningful" reparations? "Meaningful" Reparations mean both compensation for crimes committed while punishing the benefactors of those crimes.

This truly is the only way forward for the US; and its not just the Blacks, its the Native Americans as well!



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 12:56 PM
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Curious why a memorial on private property is an issue. It's not like you need to go there if you don't want to.



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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:08 PM
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Now what about Grant's Tomb ?

😁



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
a reply to: Plotus
Is this thread gonna be another exercise in Whitesplainin'?



I think so.

America's history has definitely been "whitewashed" - - also, male dominated.

However, I personally am a move forward, evolve, progressionist.

But, it kind of reminds me of PTSD. My friend specializes in treating PTSD. And he says you can't bury stuff, your brain knows. You have to face it, accept it, then move forward. Of course, how much it affects someone is individual.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:38 PM
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I live in the area, and nobody I know has any problem with the Lynching Memorial.

As stated, it is private property, they can do what they want with it. Don't like it? Build your own memorial.

40 miles north of the EJI memorial is a Confederate Veterans Memorial with a gigantic Confederate Battle Flag that waves over I-65. It is also on private property. Even though I cringe every time I see that giant flag and how it makes Alabama look to passers-by, it is their right to use the site as they wish.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: theantediluvian

Which wingnuts would those be?

The nazi's going around burning books they don't like called statues.

Or the American taliban destroying cultural icons they don't like?


Actually, I was referring to you. You're the wingnut who just equated removing a statue with murdering a human being.

Books and statues have basically nothing in common and don't serve the same purpose. This bull# about "remembering history" is just that — bull#. The purpose of the statues in question is at best veneration (at worst intimidation) and absolutely not education.

Now you're trying to equate statues that are typically under 100 years old with statues that are 1500 years old. And I didn't say anything about destroying them either.

All you have is a bunch of preloaded hyperbolic talking points. You're like a Pez dispenser of other peoples' bad ideas.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:47 PM
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The only wing nuts around here are those that go around whining about statues because apparently they hurt their poor wittle feelings.

What I want to know is when the biggest monument in this nations history.

That still profits off the back of 'blacks' is going to be gotten rid of.

Everyone knows what that monument is.

It's symbol is the donkey.

A mascot chosen well.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: theantediluvian
You're like a Pez dispenser of other peoples' bad ideas.
Brilliant! Is it yours?



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: theantediluvian

Why are lefties for tearing down confederate memorials (mainly ancient ones no less), but for erecting lynching memorials??



Oh I don't know, maybe because one is celebrated (for people who wanted slavery, where people were treated as merchandise), while the other memorializes the victims of hatred and oppression not to mention the violence they endured.

I have no idea why the right wants these confederate people celebrated and for their statues to stay, yet hate this but I have a pretty good idea why.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 01:57 PM
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a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

AFAIK but there's probably a couple billion English speakers in the world and Pez has been around for decades so maybe not.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

So you think any form of lynching is perfectly acceptable as long as you deem it justified?

When you state "...how many were justified (i.e. lynching a criminal)" and then "...more blacks die in gang/thug violence EVERY YEAR", you are comparing the African American experience today to the one back then, which is idiotic. Sure there were times that a black person may have committed violence or another crime, against a white person but what about why they did this, steal to feed themselves or family, self-protection, maybe just plain tired of being treated like an animal, so they stood up for themselves or they just did it because they were crazy or evil.

So tell me what when is it appropriate to lynch another human being in your mind and you do know, that even if 1000 lynchings were "justified" that still leaves 2500 of innocents. Tell me how many lynchings is convenient to you, before you think that they can be memorialized?

Minorities, women and gays that are republicans make no sense to me, why join a party that does everything in it's power to demean them or dismisses their experiences as nothing more than whining and complaining.
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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: Plotus

I'm not sure how someone whose ancestors were lynched would feel about the project, but memorials serve better as reminders to those who have already forgotten. Those who erase their past erase their future.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: donnydeevil
originally posted by: Edumakated

So you think any form of lynching is perfectly acceptable as long as you deem it justified?

When you state "...how many were justified (i.e. lynching a criminal)" and then "...more blacks die in gang/thug violence EVERY YEAR", you are comparing the African American experience today to the one back then, which is idiotic. Sure there were times that a black person may have committed violence or another crime, against a white person but what about why they did this, steal to feed themselves or family, self-protection, maybe just plain tired of being treated like an animal, so they stood up for themselves or they just did it because they were crazy or evil.

So tell me what when is it appropriate to lynch another human being in your mind and you do know, that even if 1000 lynchings were "justified" that still leaves 2500 of innocents. Tell me how many lynchings is convenient to you, before you think that they can be memorialized?

Minorities, women and gays that are republicans make no sense to me, why join a party that does everything in it's power to demean them or dismisses their experiences as nothing more than whining and complaining.


Work on your reading comprehension and stop projecting. See, I am a man of facts. I learned a long time ago not to take everything at face value because some people have a way of manipulating data to support an ideology or agenda.

My point, since it obviously flew over your head, is that we don't know how that 3500 number was derived. And yes, back then, justice was swift so it is pertinent information to understand the breakdown of the numbers. Just because 3500 blacks were lynched, does not mean that all 3500 were lynched purely out of racism. This is not to say that lynching was justified necessarily, but I like to know all the facts.

It is like how BLM will trot out 500 black men were killed by police as if it equates to lynching, but then ignore that 90% were clearly justifiable shootings. I just want to get to accurate numbers.

And back at you, minorities who continue to carry water for the Democrat party make no sense to me. Why join a party that hasn't done sh*t for you or your community other than validate your need to be a victim. Go ahead, tell me what Democrats have actually done for black folks. Be specific...



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 05:48 PM
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Lynching - the black Holocaust.

We can call the civil war the American Holocaust.

As for the real Holocaust, well, we bail these people out in WWII and this is the thanks we get. Holocaust museums all over the place while they call us Nazis.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 05:55 PM
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We can call the civil war the American Holocaust.


Not really considering a bunch of white people killed a bunch of other white people to supposedly free black people then turned around and slaughtered the brown people.

Bout the only people with a legitimate gripe in the 21st century are native Americans, and all they got out of the deal were casinos.



posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated


NAACP claims there were about 3500 lynchings of blacks from 1882 to 1968. Certainly horrible. However, we don't know how many were justified (i.e. lynching a criminal).


You find mob "justice" (murder/lynching) acceptable, then?
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posted on Apr, 24 2018 @ 06:01 PM
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I dont really have a problem with it.

First if it is on private property (whihc I didnt see) then its clearly no issue.

Even on public though, I dont see the harm of memorializing an important albeit tragic part of history.



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