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Originally posted by edsinger
Come on you know better than that,
plus bombers are impractical for the next 30 years for the Chinese...they need local firepower that you wish to sell them.....go ahead but the ramifications will be something you didn't expect....
Originally posted by edsinger
plus bombers are impractical for the next 30 years for the Chinese...they need local firepower that you wish to sell them.....go ahead but the ramifications will be something you didn't expect....
Originally posted by devilwasp
The local power they have already...who exactly are they going to fight...india?
Originally posted by edsinger
Its obvious you dont know then...............
Originally posted by edsinger
Not at all but lets see if I can be blunt!
China WILL attempt to take Taiwan by force in the next 15 years or so. WHEN that happens the USA will stop it. We are treaty bound to do so.
Now, that being said, there is the chance of the communists taking a fall and that China and Taiwan could end up doing what East and West Germany did, the same goes for the Korea's.
Now, can I get any plainer than that? No secret Chinese plan, they are very open about it.
Originally posted by devilwasp
The USA might not even be in a position to defend china.
Bombers would be extremely useful in a fight with the USA in that situation.
Yeah the UK will be involved since we cant do ANY operations unless in a co-alition....they actually define the role of the RN as working cost effectively in a co-alition....
Originally posted by edsinger
To defend Taiwan? Yes we will be......and to really piss you off probably with the UK there also.
the best way to deal with China is exactly what we have been doing, let them build their economy until they can not afford to have a war, sooner or later the communist will loose power and then things will improve..
Originally posted by devilwasp
...... they are not comunist.They wont loose power.......
Originally posted by edsinger
I dont know how you can claim this with a straight face? Of course they have market reforms in full swing but you still buy this crap?
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by edsinger
I dont know how you can claim this with a straight face? Of course they have market reforms in full swing but you still buy this crap?
Mabye because its true???
The only crap I see is the reasons you give me for NOT believeing them and believing you....
Originally posted by edsinger
So you contend that China is not a communist country, do I presume this to be correct?
[edit on 19-3-2005 by edsinger]
Originally posted by edsinger
So you contend that China is not a communist country, do I presume this to be correct?
[edit on 19-3-2005 by edsinger]
Originally posted by edsinger
China WILL attempt to take Taiwan by force in the next 15 years or so. WHEN that happens the USA will stop it. We are treaty bound to do so.
Originally posted by devilwasp
Originally posted by edsinger
So you contend that China is not a communist country, do I presume this to be correct?
[edit on 19-3-2005 by edsinger]
Lets look at the facts....is there a left wing government in charge?
No its a dictatorship....
Is there a military controlled people aka a police state?
Yes, that means not left.
Originally posted by edsinger
SO what communist nation did NOT have the same thing?
Communist/dictatorship by the party...one in the same.
Originally posted by devilwaspThere has never been ANY comunist countries...except mabye cuba which strangely seems to work..
Originally posted by devilwaspWait now your saying that left is right and right is left? Your telling me repuplicans and liberals are the same thing???
STOP THE PRESSES!
Originally posted by edsinger
Cuba work? Thats a laugh at best.
Not at all, I am saying that the communist countries were ran by a dictator, ever heard of Stalin? How about that freak in North Korea? Fidel ring a bell?