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Comey planned on releasing the memos before he was fired

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posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 08:38 AM
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SO something was bothering me about the memos that were released last night.

Initially I was immediately drawn to the fact that Comeys own memos were labeled "secret" which would have made them illegal to leak.

(here are the memos for those who havent seen them)

www.documentcloud.org...

However, some users (I believe Pyle) pointed out that the memo starting on page 10 was unclassified, and that was the only one that comey leaked to his friend.

Now there are conflicting reports that 4 memos were leaked, which would mean that at least one had to be classified, but lets leave that aside for the moment.

Lets assume only this unclassified memo was leaked.

This memo was written on 2/14/17. Comey supposedly didnt leak this memo to his friend until after he was fired on 5/9/17.

Now here is the part I find odd.

Its not just that Comey labeled this memo unclassified, he actually mentions in the memo itself thaat he haas to watch his language because he is keeping it unclassified.

If you look right at the end of page 10 and the beginning of page 11, he says


Note: because this is an unclassified document, I will be limited in how I describe what happened next)


This is incredibly revealing. Keep in mind, on the previous memos were sent to all people with security clearances. Such as Andrew McCabe, James Baker, and James Rybecki.

Comey sent his first memo to them on 1/7/2017.

He also said that he deemed the memo secret, and this is buttressed by the fact that even on the released memo, things are redacted.

So given that the whole purpose of these memos was for comeys own recollection, or for sending to other high ups in the intel community, and he had sent these memos as secret, why the change of heart on 2/14/17?

Why was this memo not only unclassified, but comey is even explaining he wants to keep it unclassified in the body of the memo? Why would he feel the need to keep out classified material if this memo was only for he and others in the intel community, who he had already sent secret info to several times?

My feeling is that this shows Comey knew when he was writing the 2/14/17 memo that he was going to leak it to people that would not be able to see classified material.

If true, this is devastating. It shows that even before Comey was fired, and he used that as an excuse to want a special counsel and draw questions of obstruction of justice, he was planning on leaking info about conversations with the President for the media to get a hold of.

This is especially disturbing given that the memo immediately goes on after the note about it being unclassified saying he would like to "nail leakers to the wall" to make an example of them.

I can see no reason whatsoever that Comey would express the need to keep classified info from the intel people he was emailing, who he had admittedly been sending classified memos to regularly, unless he wanted this memo to be able to be leaked to the media so that he wouldnt get in trouble for leaking classified material.

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posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 08:43 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

All FBI memos are government property. It is not up to an individual to release them on his own.

You are correct. How did a man with so many mental issues reach the top of the FBI? Who promoted him to that position?



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 08:46 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Comey had an agenda when writing these memos, and by the sounds of it what he did was also illegal (leaking "secret" material, or giving it to someone else to leak, because there really is no difference there)

Also, watch how he acts in this "interview" on The View... how he is pandering to the audience base (talking about "A Woman, actually..." on a show created by Barbara Walters with all-female hosts, for female viewers), and looking down when one of the hosts begins talking about the criminal referral.

I also love how he says "That's what justice is for, to hold people accountable". This dude is such a hypocrite it's sad. He doesn't even believe the crap he says


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posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 08:47 AM
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Now take this in conjunction with the starnge circumstances around Comeys firing.

Apparently, Rosnestein drew up a letter outlining why Mueller should be fired. Yet still allegations of obstruction were leveled at trump as a result of the leaked memo.

Rosenstein then appoints a special counsel naming Comeys friend and mentor Mueller as the head of it.

Comey admits this is exactly what he wanted, and praises the choice of mueller.

As many have criticized with special counsels in the past, the problem with them is that they are rarelly constrained, and end up investigating crimes that have nothing to do with their intial purpose.

This is exactly what someone who hated trump but couldnt prove he colluded with russia would want (Comey).

Now there was a years long invetsigation with nearly unlimited scope and power to hamper trumps presidency, and to look at any crimes he could have committed decades ago.

And we see mueller referring a case looking at trumps payments of a porn star which led to trump lawyers office being raided and things like the access hollywood tape being looked for. What does this have to do with russsian collusion again?

Are we to really believe that Comey had not dicussed his memos with rosenstein, or that rosenstein hadnt been made aware of them when others in the FBI like McCabe and Baker were being emailed about them from comey regularly?

SO rosenstien presumably knew of the memo which trump said about letting flynn go, and yet still recommended Comey be fired.

Then when that memo is leaked public by comey, he appoints comeys friend as a special counsel to investigate trump.

Again, it appears Comey had this planned way back on 2/14/17, and waited for months to be fired so that they would have the reason to appoint a special counsel.



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 08:48 AM
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I wonder if anyone reminded Comey that he has the right to remain silent?

It has become manifestly evident to me that he is a goose who will eventually fall on his own sword....

These, for instance.....


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posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 08:49 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

You ask some very pointed and interesting questions.



My feeling is that this shows Comey knew when he was writing the 2/14/17 memo that he was going to leak it to people that would not be able to see classified material.


I agree with your speculation, but I think the only reason comey told trump about the dossier was so he could use it as leverage against trump. Comey admitted he was asked by the dni to meet with potus alone to give him this "info". As it was just he and potus it was he said she said from the beginning. Comey has attempted to use trumps reputation as justification for his memos. Were this actually the true reason then comey would have memos from his problematic meetings with lynch and the "matter". To have memos from one situation and not the other is inconsistant and the justification for one and not the other is laughable.



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 09:00 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Relevant.......


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posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 09:22 AM
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On page 1 of the leaks in the bottom right had corner there are handwritten notes about FBI National Security Information. Classification Guide. Do we know who put those notes or dates on the memos?



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 12:53 PM
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Hmm...

So where are all of the Comey defenders

Oh well, just another case of hoping ignoring something will make it go away



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 04:03 PM
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OP, Comey already admitted that he wrote the memo's in a way that would allow him to share them.


Last year, Comey implied to senators during a June 8 hearing that the memos he gave to Richman on May 15 after he was fired on May 9 were not classified.

During that hearing, he said he wrote his memos in a way so that they would not be classified, so that the memos could be shared more easily among investigators and within the government, as Breitbart News has reported. Comey said at the hearing, “If I write it such a way that doesn’t include anything of a classification, that would make it easier for to us discuss within the FBI and the government, and to hold onto it in a way that makes it accessible to us.”


He knew what he was doing before he ever had the meetings.
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posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
Hmm...

So where are all of the Comey defenders

Oh well, just another case of hoping ignoring something will make it go away


The IG is already investigating Comey - there could be a criminal referral on the way


A source close to Trump’s legal team told Breitbart News at the time that they were planning to file complaints against Comey with the Justice Department inspector general. The DOJ IG’s office had pointed to an existing investigation on Comey, but did not say whether it would be expanded to include the leaking of the memos. WSJ‘s report indicated that the inspector general took up the investigation. Whether the investigation will lead to a criminal referral is unclear. Comey’s leaking of classified information puts him in the same boat as former presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, who sent classified material over her unsecured private email server. She argued that the material was not marked classified at the time she sent it, although investigators later found that not to be true. The revelation of Comey’s leaking of classified information comes after the Justice Department handed his memos documenting his private conversations with Trump to House lawmakers on Thursday. Of the seven that were handed over, four contained classified information. Comey apparently gave his friend at least two of those classified memos, with only one allegedly redacted. The inspector general has the ability to refer Comey to the Justice Department for criminal charges, as he did with former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe earlier this week.



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 04:36 PM
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From what I have read, the memo's were up-classified.

Up-classified can mean a couple of things:

1. The information would not have been considered classified at the time it was written, but was deemed to be classified at the time of review due to a change in circumstances concerning the information.

2. The information should have been classified at the time it was written but was not given the proper classification markings by the creator and it was given the correct classification markings at the time it was reviewed.


Up-classified should not be confused with retro-actively classified which pertains to information that has been released to the public as unclassified by the government that is later deemed to be classified.

Born classified is another term you hear, which means that information is deemed to be classified at the time of creation, usually applies to TSI/SAP information such as imagery from satellites, spy planes, drones, etc.




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posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

I was thinking that maybe these are not all the memos but only the ones that could be scrubbed for public consumption.

Or maybe Comey when writing the 2/14/2017 and later memos had a good idea Trump was going to fire him and he knew that he would need to make unclassified versions of his memos to ensure they could be distributed and his account could be made public.



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 07:07 PM
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Honestly, it seems like he might have been setting Trump up. I believe he was hoping Trump would lie about the meeting, so he wanted to have his words about it in someone else's hands. Trump also spooked him with the "he better hope there are no tapes" comment.

I wonder if his notes are actually verbatim, didnt he go to his car and recollect the conversation for his handy dandy notebook. His memory doesn't seem to be the best.

Did he give 4 memo's to his friend, and his friend give the 4 to the news outlet and they only release 1? I'm unsure where the 4 come in and who received them.
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posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 07:08 PM
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if you can't clearly see this guy is a lying sack of crap seeking attention your ability to perceive must come into question



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 07:11 PM
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Note: because this is an unclassified document, I will be limited in how I describe what happened next)


Oh the irony.

This is what intent looks like. This is how you prove it.

I can't stop laughing at the karma at work here.



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 07:48 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Grambler


Note: because this is an unclassified document, I will be limited in how I describe what happened next)


Oh the irony.

This is what intent looks like. This is how you prove it.

I can't stop laughing at the karma at work here.




Simply amazing, ain't it?

I want to see some body slams over this.




posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 07:50 PM
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*Intent



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Grambler


Note: because this is an unclassified document, I will be limited in how I describe what happened next)


Oh the irony.

This is what intent looks like. This is how you prove it.

I can't stop laughing at the karma at work here.


Yep.

And remember all of the ats people saying how smart and honorable Comey is?

Now where are they?

It is clear Comey knew me NYU’s before he was fired he would be leaking this info



posted on Apr, 20 2018 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
And remember all of the ats people saying how smart and honorable Comey is?

Now where are they?


Well I will confess that I was initially fooled by him when
did his Hillary exoneration. But I have since come around
and now can see clearly that he was in on the collusion.

I think your on the money here, he may have wrote these
anytime after he was fired. We know by his own testimony
that he did not make a habit of keeping memo's.





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