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DOJ Set To Release Comey's Memos, Could Lead To End Of Mueller's Investigation, Top Democrat Says

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posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 03:54 PM
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On Thursday, sources told CNN that the U.S. Department of Justice is expected to release the memos of former FBI Director James Comey to Congress at some point today.

In a January report from Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, Grassley wrote: "After a review of the seven memoranda created by former Director Comey, it is now clear that four are marked classified at various levels of sensitivity. Former Director Comey reportedly provided copies of four memos to Columbia Law School Professor Daniel Richman. If true, that would mean at least one disclosed memo contained information now-marked classified."

The top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), said that releasing Comey's memos puts Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in serious jeopardy of being "being placed in contempt of Congress and the special counsel investigation of being shut down," the Washington Examiner reported.


www.dailywire.com...

So after fighting tooth and nail, it seems as if the DOJ will finally release the memos.

Why were they afraid to do so, and why is Nadler suggesting it could lead to rosenstein being placed in contempt and the investigation shut down.

Could it be that they both know the material in there is damning, and proves comey committed crimes or acted out of bias, and the entire impetus for the special counsel was a sham?

Hopefully we find out.

Between this and the story about rosenstein supposedly saying trump is not a target of mueller, www.abovetopsecret.com...

My predication is the new anti trump narrative will switch to the Mueller investigation isnt the real important thing,. it is the NY attorney who raided Trumps lawyer that is the real big deal.

It will be never ending; Trump colluded with russia, oh we cant prove that, well he obstructed justice! OH darn, well we will raid his lawyers office to say he violated campaign finances!

And on and on.
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posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:08 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

That doesn't make much sense. Or else Gowdy, Grassley in the senate, and so on are part of it. As well as Trump's cabinet picks for the DOJ and FBI.

PS the NY attorney is federal prosecutor as far as I know for the state of NY.


edit on 19-4-2018 by luthier because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Well...at least they'll still have their porn star.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Grambler

Well...at least they'll still have their porn star.


Starting to mirror whitewater to the T.


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posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler

That doesn't make much sense. Or else Gowdy, Grassley in the senate, and so on are part of it. As well as Trump's cabinet picks for the DOJ and FBI.

PS the NY attorney is federal prosecutor as far as I know for the state of NY.



How woulod grassley gowdy and all be part of this?

They have been requesting documents from the doj for about a year and being stonewalled.

As far as trumps picks like rosenstein, yes they appear to be corrupt and not doing their jobs of giving documents over to congress.

They have been threatened with contempt several times due to their unwillingness to hand over requested documents.

Just more proof that the unelected intel community has no desire to uphold the law and allow congress to have the oversight they are permitted by law, and is instead acting out of self serving political reasons.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Well gowdy and grassly are saying Mueller should keep going and even trying to protect him. They have seen the memos months ago.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:14 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler

That doesn't make much sense. Or else Gowdy, Grassley in the senate, and so on are part of it. As well as Trump's cabinet picks for the DOJ and FBI.

PS the NY attorney is federal prosecutor as far as I know for the state of NY.



How woulod grassley gowdy and all be part of this?

They have been requesting documents from the doj for about a year and being stonewalled.

As far as trumps picks like rosenstein, yes they appear to be corrupt and not doing their jobs of giving documents over to congress.

They have been threatened with contempt several times due to their unwillingness to hand over requested documents.

Just more proof that the unelected intel community has no desire to uphold the law and allow congress to have the oversight they are permitted by law, and is instead acting out of self serving political reasons.


If you think elected officials are somehow any better in our current lobby corrupt system I have news for you. They are probably the worst of the worst and have no ethics at all. At least un elected people try and do work as nefarious as it can be.
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posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler

That doesn't make much sense. Or else Gowdy, Grassley in the senate, and so on are part of it. As well as Trump's cabinet picks for the DOJ and FBI.

PS the NY attorney is federal prosecutor as far as I know for the state of NY.



It appears that this issue is not being presented in proper context.


The Democrat said the memos are "key" to the special counsel's work, and "pursuant to a longstanding Department policy and absent any satisfactory accommodation, the Department of Justice cannot simply hand over evidence that is part of an ongoing criminal investigation." Should House Republicans refuse any such "accommodation," Nadler said, "I fear the Majority will have manufactured an excuse to hold the Deputy Attorney General in contempt of Congress." "If they succeed in tarnishing the Deputy Attorney General, perhaps they will have given President Trump pretext he has sought to replace Mr. Rosenstein with someone willing to do his bidding and end the Special Counsel's investigation."


www.washingtonexaminer.com...

They are not implying any wrongdoing on the part of Rosenstein or that the investigation should be shut down because of what the memos contain.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:20 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler

That doesn't make much sense. Or else Gowdy, Grassley in the senate, and so on are part of it. As well as Trump's cabinet picks for the DOJ and FBI.

PS the NY attorney is federal prosecutor as far as I know for the state of NY.



It appears that this issue is not being presented in proper context.


The Democrat said the memos are "key" to the special counsel's work, and "pursuant to a longstanding Department policy and absent any satisfactory accommodation, the Department of Justice cannot simply hand over evidence that is part of an ongoing criminal investigation." Should House Republicans refuse any such "accommodation," Nadler said, "I fear the Majority will have manufactured an excuse to hold the Deputy Attorney General in contempt of Congress." "If they succeed in tarnishing the Deputy Attorney General, perhaps they will have given President Trump pretext he has sought to replace Mr. Rosenstein with someone willing to do his bidding and end the Special Counsel's investigation."


www.washingtonexaminer.com...

They are not implying any wrongdoing on the part of Rosenstein or that the investigation should be shut down because of what the memos contain.


Wow. That is incredibly cherry picked. Ben has been turning to the dark side since he was reported to be going main stream.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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a reply to: introvert

NAdler said that subpoenaing Rosenstein would hurt his credibility and the mueller investigation; you are right not the actual memos themselves.

He seems awfully afraid to have these memos come out.

What possible justification could be had for keeping congress, which has oversight of the investigations, from seeing memos that Comeys freind (with no security clearance) and journalists have seen?

If its so secretive and impactful evidence, then this in itself is an admission that it shouldnt have been viewed by non governmental people.

This is a thinlly veiled excuse to keep congress from seeing these documents, as the doj and fbi have been doing at every turn.

So lets hope they get made public soon.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:24 PM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: Grambler

Well...at least they'll still have their porn star.


Starting to mirror whitewater to the T.


Yuppers...Comey was involved with THAT, too.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: introvert

NAdler said that subpoenaing Rosenstein would hurt his credibility and the mueller investigation; you are right not the actual memos themselves.

He seems awfully afraid to have these memos come out.

What possible justification could be had for keeping congress, which has oversight of the investigations, from seeing memos that Comeys freind (with no security clearance) and journalists have seen?

If its so secretive and impactful evidence, then this in itself is an admission that it shouldnt have been viewed by non governmental people.

This is a thinlly veiled excuse to keep congress from seeing these documents, as the doj and fbi have been doing at every turn.

So lets hope they get made public soon.


The justification is congress is a joke. They are at an all time partisan high with leaks on all sides.

The ideal that these people are noble is absurd.

However it is the way it's supposed to work with congresional oversight.


Let's day they have evidence, real evidence of wrong doing. The last thing they want are leaks. It's just as possible as your scenario.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

On Thursday, sources told CNN that the U.S. Department of Justice is expected to release the memos of former FBI Director James Comey to Congress at some point today.

In a January report from Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, Grassley wrote: "After a review of the seven memoranda created by former Director Comey, it is now clear that four are marked classified at various levels of sensitivity. Former Director Comey reportedly provided copies of four memos to Columbia Law School Professor Daniel Richman. If true, that would mean at least one disclosed memo contained information now-marked classified."

The top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), said that releasing Comey's memos puts Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in serious jeopardy of being "being placed in contempt of Congress and the special counsel investigation of being shut down," the Washington Examiner reported.


www.dailywire.com...

So after fighting tooth and nail, it seems as if the DOJ will finally release the memos.

Why were they afraid to do so, and why is Nadler suggesting it could lead to rosenstein being placed in contempt and the investigation shut down.

Could it be that they both know the material in there is damning, and proves comey committed crimes or acted out of bias, and the entire impetus for the special counsel was a sham?

Hopefully we find out.

Between this and the story about rosenstein supposedly saying trump is not a target of mueller, www.abovetopsecret.com...

My predication is the new anti trump narrative will switch to the Mueller investigation isnt the real important thing,. it is the NY attorney who raided Trumps lawyer that is the real big deal.

It will be never ending; Trump colluded with russia, oh we cant prove that, well he obstructed justice! OH darn, well we will raid his lawyers office to say he violated campaign finances!

And on and on.


My guess would be that Trump issued a directive to hold onto them as long as possible for release as close as they can to midterm elections. If there is enough damming evidence in it, the investigations could be far reaching and squash any chance the Dems have for gaining power in the midterms unless they begin distancing themselves from certain folks now.

If I'm right, we will start to see them turn on eachother soon.

Best way to win is to get your opponent to implode and fight itself.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:27 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

So was Gingrich and the GOP. They loved it when it favored them.

That is why I don't defend any of it.

I could care less if trump goes down. Or Hilary.

What I did care about was the nsa revelations and the Patriot act stuff. That actually effects me.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler

That doesn't make much sense. Or else Gowdy, Grassley in the senate, and so on are part of it. As well as Trump's cabinet picks for the DOJ and FBI.

PS the NY attorney is federal prosecutor as far as I know for the state of NY.



It appears that this issue is not being presented in proper context.


The Democrat said the memos are "key" to the special counsel's work, and "pursuant to a longstanding Department policy and absent any satisfactory accommodation, the Department of Justice cannot simply hand over evidence that is part of an ongoing criminal investigation." Should House Republicans refuse any such "accommodation," Nadler said, "I fear the Majority will have manufactured an excuse to hold the Deputy Attorney General in contempt of Congress." "If they succeed in tarnishing the Deputy Attorney General, perhaps they will have given President Trump pretext he has sought to replace Mr. Rosenstein with someone willing to do his bidding and end the Special Counsel's investigation."


www.washingtonexaminer.com...

They are not implying any wrongdoing on the part of Rosenstein or that the investigation should be shut down because of what the memos contain.


Wow. That is incredibly cherry picked. Ben has been turning to the dark side since he was reported to be going main stream.


Cherry-picked? Very much so.

Unfortunately, that gives way to people making illogical extrapolations that appear to be based more on partisan bias and political desire, instead of facts and context.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:28 PM
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originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: introvert

NAdler said that subpoenaing Rosenstein would hurt his credibility and the mueller investigation; you are right not the actual memos themselves.

He seems awfully afraid to have these memos come out.

What possible justification could be had for keeping congress, which has oversight of the investigations, from seeing memos that Comeys freind (with no security clearance) and journalists have seen?

If its so secretive and impactful evidence, then this in itself is an admission that it shouldnt have been viewed by non governmental people.

This is a thinlly veiled excuse to keep congress from seeing these documents, as the doj and fbi have been doing at every turn.

So lets hope they get made public soon.


The justification is congress is a joke. They are at an all time partisan high with leaks on all sides.

The ideal that these people are noble is absurd.

However it is the way it's supposed to work with congresional oversight.


Let's day they have evidence, real evidence of wrong doing. The last thing they want are leaks. It's just as possible as your scenario.


The law is the law.

You are worried about leaks now? Yeah, cause the intel community proved they are so tight lipped. Oh wait, whats that, they have been leaking over and over and over again?

How about we just follow the law?

It is clear that many inside the intel community, as we have seen proof just this past couple of weeks with comey and Mcabe, act out of political or personal benefit. This is why there needs to be oversight.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: luthier
a reply to: Grambler

That doesn't make much sense. Or else Gowdy, Grassley in the senate, and so on are part of it. As well as Trump's cabinet picks for the DOJ and FBI.

PS the NY attorney is federal prosecutor as far as I know for the state of NY.



It appears that this issue is not being presented in proper context.


The Democrat said the memos are "key" to the special counsel's work, and "pursuant to a longstanding Department policy and absent any satisfactory accommodation, the Department of Justice cannot simply hand over evidence that is part of an ongoing criminal investigation." Should House Republicans refuse any such "accommodation," Nadler said, "I fear the Majority will have manufactured an excuse to hold the Deputy Attorney General in contempt of Congress." "If they succeed in tarnishing the Deputy Attorney General, perhaps they will have given President Trump pretext he has sought to replace Mr. Rosenstein with someone willing to do his bidding and end the Special Counsel's investigation."


www.washingtonexaminer.com...

They are not implying any wrongdoing on the part of Rosenstein or that the investigation should be shut down because of what the memos contain.


Wow. That is incredibly cherry picked. Ben has been turning to the dark side since he was reported to be going main stream.


Cherry-picked? Very much so.

Unfortunately, that gives way to people making illogical extrapolations that appear to be based more on partisan bias and political desire, instead of facts and context.


Is that so?

Coming from you thats rich.

You know, who fought over and over to not have any investigations into hillarys side or the intel community.

I guess the IG that just issued a criminal refferal on McCabe must be just another "right wing nut" though, right?

If I were you, I would be ashamed to have been such a shill for so long just arguing against even having investigations, and calling anyone wanting them a nut, only to now ignore the fact you were totally wrong.

As to the story linked in the OP, yeah I think they did misrepresent the source, as I pointed out above.

But not terribly so, and Nadler is still a worm trying to justify allowing news reporters and professors that are comeys friends to see evidence that congress, who has every legal right to see it, shouldnt be allowed to see.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: luthier

originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: introvert

NAdler said that subpoenaing Rosenstein would hurt his credibility and the mueller investigation; you are right not the actual memos themselves.

He seems awfully afraid to have these memos come out.

What possible justification could be had for keeping congress, which has oversight of the investigations, from seeing memos that Comeys freind (with no security clearance) and journalists have seen?

If its so secretive and impactful evidence, then this in itself is an admission that it shouldnt have been viewed by non governmental people.

This is a thinlly veiled excuse to keep congress from seeing these documents, as the doj and fbi have been doing at every turn.

So lets hope they get made public soon.


The justification is congress is a joke. They are at an all time partisan high with leaks on all sides.

The ideal that these people are noble is absurd.

However it is the way it's supposed to work with congresional oversight.


Let's day they have evidence, real evidence of wrong doing. The last thing they want are leaks. It's just as possible as your scenario.


The law is the law.

You are worried about leaks now? Yeah, cause the intel community proved they are so tight lipped. Oh wait, whats that, they have been leaking over and over and over again?

How about we just follow the law?

It is clear that many inside the intel community, as we have seen proof just this past couple of weeks with comey and Mcabe, act out of political or personal benefit. This is why there needs to be oversight.



The law is not really the law. There are loopholes and exceptions.

And I saw this far before with Ashcroft. As I told you there were 75 fisa violations in his first year as AG. WTF did people expect when they kept eroding the law for 17 years.

Now it's all on obama? It's actually congress that caused and allowed this. The same people you seem to trust.



posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Reports coming in that the DOJ has just delivered these
"memos" to congress



BREAKING: Congress has Comey Memos in their possession

twitter.com...


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posted on Apr, 19 2018 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: Grambler

On Thursday, sources told CNN that the U.S. Department of Justice is expected to release the memos of former FBI Director James Comey to Congress at some point today.

In a January report from Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, Grassley wrote: "After a review of the seven memoranda created by former Director Comey, it is now clear that four are marked classified at various levels of sensitivity. Former Director Comey reportedly provided copies of four memos to Columbia Law School Professor Daniel Richman. If true, that would mean at least one disclosed memo contained information now-marked classified."

The top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), said that releasing Comey's memos puts Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in serious jeopardy of being "being placed in contempt of Congress and the special counsel investigation of being shut down," the Washington Examiner reported.


www.dailywire.com...

So after fighting tooth and nail, it seems as if the DOJ will finally release the memos.

Why were they afraid to do so, and why is Nadler suggesting it could lead to rosenstein being placed in contempt and the investigation shut down.

Could it be that they both know the material in there is damning, and proves comey committed crimes or acted out of bias, and the entire impetus for the special counsel was a sham?

Hopefully we find out.

Between this and the story about rosenstein supposedly saying trump is not a target of mueller, www.abovetopsecret.com...

My predication is the new anti trump narrative will switch to the Mueller investigation isnt the real important thing,. it is the NY attorney who raided Trumps lawyer that is the real big deal.

It will be never ending; Trump colluded with russia, oh we cant prove that, well he obstructed justice! OH darn, well we will raid his lawyers office to say he violated campaign finances!

And on and on.


My guess would be that Trump issued a directive to hold onto them as long as possible for release as close as they can to midterm elections. If there is enough damming evidence in it, the investigations could be far reaching and squash any chance the Dems have for gaining power in the midterms unless they begin distancing themselves from certain folks now.

If I'm right, we will start to see them turn on eachother soon.

Best way to win is to get your opponent to implode and fight itself.


Are you advocating this as a good and Noble plan?




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