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California has eight of 10 most polluted U.S. cities

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posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

So, continue to breathe bad air and wind up with COPD later.
Hell of a option.




posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: Phage

For most I'd say be prepared, it's expensive, but where you are at is more expensive unless it's changed.

You don't really want to visit Fairbanks (if anyone asks I did not say that). Come to Anchorage, then hit Denali, then back through Anchorage to all the great stuff on the Kenai or Seward for a trip on a boat through the glaciers and fiords.
edit on 4/18/2018 by Blaine91555 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: Swills

So your solution is to have everyone unemployed and unable to travel more than 10 miles?

That sounds more inhumane than your first idea.

TheRedneck



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:22 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555

It will probably be a fishing trip.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Yeah. I guess you can't eliminate wood stoves. Any chance there are ways to reduce their particulate emissions?

Might be a good thing to try to do, since it is apparently dangerous to breath the air there.


I'll be honest, when it's cold enough in Fairbanks for the air quality to reach its worst, it's so damn cold you're breathing through a filtering balaklava anyway, so no big whoop.

I forgot Fairbanks' most wonderful air pollution source: the blessed birch tree. By this time next month Fairbanks' residents and visitors will be breathing in the byproduct of a veritable orgy from the birch trees that thoughtlessly overpopulate the region. Anchorage is bad where birch pollen is concerned many years but Fairbanks is usually competing for worst place on Earth for tree allergy sufferers. I understand there's a place in the Netherlands or one of those Nordic countries that comes damn close, but Fairbanks can pop a 3,000 grains per cubic meter count without even considering it a bad year. It's funny to see a place like Seattle issue a red flag warning when their tree pollen exceeds 200 counts and an extreme warning at 600 while sitting in a place that multiplies that by a factor of 5 during a normal late May to mid June period. If you have allergies or asthma, Alaska can kick your ass, and lingering fireplace smoke particles isn't even near the top of your list of concerns.

Forest fires are another big one, for what it's worth... When the Kenai had a major fire several years ago Anchorage was not pleasant at all. You could look directly at the sun through the smoke and see either a dim glow or an orangeish ball depending on the breeze velocity. Wake up in the morning feeling like you'd smoked a couple packs of unfiltered luckies the prior night. So no, human caused air pollution isn't a big worry here.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: TinfoilTP

Do you think there would be less pollution with fewer regulations?


I think there would be a lower density of people with less freebies and socialist programs.


And if they actually enforced their border.

People need to google the trash those people leave coming to the promised land.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:24 PM
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a reply to: Swills

Thanks to housing restrictions, most of the people who work in the large cities in Cali don't actually live in those cities because they can't afford it, especially those with families.

So you are in favor of putting the middle class in Cali out of work.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:27 PM
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a reply to: Phage

I spent much of a winter there in Pearl City, with my sister and brother in-law, but that was in like 1972. Crazy expensive then and I can't imagine now.

My nephew ran out onto a lava flow on the Big Island and grabbed me a fresh specimen with Pele's hair all over it. Lost it somewhere over the years.

Beautiful place. There are more than a few here who have homes both places.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555

I recently found out that your state still has some Blockbuster videos up there, but they're dying! I miss the smell of candy and carpet as I become disappointed that all the good New Releases are already rented out.

Do you have a Blockbuster by you?



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:28 PM
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a reply to: Phage

FYI, DEC has started requiring firewood sellers to meet moisture content requirements to address this. They also require installation of cleaner wood stoves but only if you are trying to sell, lease, or transfer your property. If you're staying put and have no intention of leaving, currently you're fine.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:29 PM
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a reply to: Phage

Or start writing regulations that are not as restrictive and are based in common sense. There is a happy middle ground. Too bad most people don't want to hear it.

I burn wood in my shop (although I am slowly moving to more efficient heat sources). When i made the decision to do so, I looked at the cost of installing a temporary flue. Had I gone with the commercial, approved versions, I would have had to spend a couple thousand dollars and the installation would not have been temporary.

Instead, I looked at my situation and my needs. I installed the flue temporarily without a commercial through-wall kit. I made my own heat shields for less than 10% of the commercial cost. It works beautifully and has functioned flawlessly, and when the day comes I no longer need wood heat I can remove everything without leaving a big scar. Thank God there are no regulations here, or I would not have been able to go to my shop during the winter.

TheRedneck



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:30 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

No it's not. I already posted some off the cuff ideas, that are actually already in place. You're just ignoring the content of my posts and focusing mainly on getting rid of people from Cali.

I'm not gonna repeat myself.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:30 PM
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Here's a regulation, stop giving illegals drivers licenses.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Blaine91555

It will probably be a fishing trip.


In that case, Burdman could clue you in. Kenai/Russian River for the Kings and Homer for Halibut.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Blaine91555

It will probably be a fishing trip.


There are no fish in Alaska.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:32 PM
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a reply to: Blaine91555

Ix-nay on the isitor-vays, laine-blay.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:33 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Really people? You are taking my EXTREME "solution" seriously?

There's a theme going on between my posts and Therednecks posts, see if you can figure it out.


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posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:33 PM
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originally posted by: Blaine91555
You don't really want to visit Fairbanks (if anyone asks I did not say that).


Imagine a city populated by a majority of Burds... Yeah, that's Fairbanks in a nutshell.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: Swills

REalistically speaking, perhaps you should be asking Silicon Valley why it's requiring so many of its employees to show up at the office anyhow.

Isn't this the age of telecommuting?



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 08:35 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Someone needs to tell the bears that.




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