Breaking: Congress refers Comey McCabe Clinton Page Strzok Lynch others for criminal prosecution

If you are against special councils and fisa that's great!

If you are in favor of getting your turn in the corruption cycle you're just another problem.

Congress is a joke. All parties considered.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Xcathdra

Yeah it's easier to just believe your confirmation biases right? All that research is hard work and may prove you wrong. Obviously it should be ignored in favor of preset biases.

As I said if they didnt get caught manipulating their own polls they might have my trust. People should not have to research how a poll was conducted and tabulated solely to ensure the poll is accurate to begin with. That would be the job of the people conducting the poll so as not to manipulate the very people who pay their bills.

Also for you to lecture on confirmation bias is rich.

Pot, meet kettle.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Why not? You should research the methodology even if you agree with it.

Also for you to lecture on confirmation bias is rich.

I'm not the one celebrating a partisan letter sent out to rile up the partisan base as something meaningful.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Why not? You should research the methodology even if you agree with it.

and when they dont disclose their method or responses then what? We just take their word for it? Just like government, lawyers or law enforcement, you abuse the public trust dont get pissed when they stop trusting.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I'm not the one celebrating a partisan letter sent out to rile up the partisan base as something meaningful.

No you are doing the opposite to the other base.

a reply to: Xcathdra

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originally posted by: Xcathdra
and when they dont disclose their method or responses then what? We just take their word for it? Just like government, lawyers or law enforcement, you abuse the public trust dont get pissed when they stop trusting.

Pretending like the methodology doesn't exist just because you don't want to look doesn't make that true:

The Post-ABC poll was conducted April 8-11 among a random national sample of 1,002 adults reached on cell and landline telephones. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

(source)

Also here are the results

No you are doing the opposite to the other base.

Whatever this is supposed to mean...

The evidence points to some of those listed as already cooperating with what's to come from IG Horowitz & Huber.

I'll post on that later with some sources and hard data.

One of the reasons is that we know that Huber has been on this for quite awhile before he was even announced and just the public evidence so far is clear and damning as to the charges listed.

Bruce Ohr has testimony on record that didn't come from any appearance before Congress so where did that testimony come from? Think about it. We also know as fact that Nellie Ohr has turned over all of her "opposition" research. Think about that too.

Further we know that Lisa Page has cooperated after being thrown under the bus by McCabe and others. All the text messages between her and Strzok originated with her as the inbox recipient.

Bill Priestap is the only one that hasn't been fired, demoted, or reassigned and is the one Comey tried to throw under the bus. Yeah, this is getting good and we're finally going to see at least a smidgen of justice.

This all has teeth--for once--and most of it is too far along to totally "deep state" all of it.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Xcathdra

Yeah it's easier to just believe your confirmation biases right? All that research is hard work and may prove you wrong. Obviously it should be ignored in favor of preset biases.

It's always nice to be lectured about confirmation bias by one of the key players in that area.

a reply to: Xcathdra
I really wish something would happen from this. It always seems like granulation tissue in medicine. It builds up enough vasculature you think it would heal then it breaks down again into a festering chronic mess. Cycle begins again with same result.

Seems Comey got blindsided on the view on his book tour. The criminal referral was read to him while they were on the air. His reaction is interesting.

He also confirmed the OIG is investigating most of what was listed. I am curious how he knows what the OIG is investigating. He also denies the allegations. Kind of an interesting path to go down being his own words are being used against him.

originally posted by: Ansuzrune
a reply to: Xcathdra
I really wish something would happen from this. It always seems like granulation tissue in medicine. It builds up enough vasculature you think it would heal then it breaks down again into a festering chronic mess. Cycle begins again with same result.

The OIG report is supposed to be out early May and the OIG is scheduled to appear before House oversight and government reform May 8th.

a reply to: smurfy

Escaping the stormy weather in New York.

a reply to: The GUT

2 FBI admins were cleared to appear before a congressional committee. However they were pulled at the last minute and could not disclose why. The thinking is they are cooperating witnesses with a grand jury against the people under investigation.

originally posted by: Xcathdra
Seems Comey got blindsided on the view on his book tour. The criminal referral was read to him while they were on the air. His reaction is interesting.

He also confirmed the OIG is investigating most of what was listed. I am curious how he knows what the OIG is investigating.

Uh probably because it was reported back in February?

a reply to: interupt42
I love that y'all feel that justice will only be served with a conviction.
Because these things have already been looked at and....nada.
Another investigation that results in no convictions or trials will be claimed insufficient and you'll be clamouring for yet another investigation. Until all parties are dead and buried.

And you can't just refer someone for prosecution by the way.
Lol

Wait, so there have already been 11 investigations into various aspects of Clinton's life (none of which found anything that resulted in a conviction) and now this tiny group of Republicans are screaming blue murder for another one, purely because of... what exactly again?

originally posted by: Sillyolme
And you can't just refer someone for prosecution by the way.
Lol

The referral is for an investigation into the alleged crimes. You know this, I know this and people reading this know it. No sense in trying to muddy the waters.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
I love that y'all feel that justice will only be served with a conviction.

That is how our system works

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Because these things have already been looked at and....nada.

Hence the OIG, Huber and Congressional investigations which are finding those previous investigations were intentionally tampered with to obtain a certain outcome.

A criminal violation by those who "investigated" as well as those who were being investigated.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
Another investigation that results in no convictions or trials will be claimed insufficient and you'll be clamouring for yet another investigation. Until all parties are dead and buried.

and when it does happen what will you claim?

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
Wait, so there have already been 11 investigations into various aspects of Clinton's life (none of which found anything that resulted in a conviction) and now this tiny group of Republicans are screaming blue murder for another one, purely because of... what exactly again?

No the investigations found criminal wrongdoing. Both by Clinton and the the people who "investigated her" who tampered with evidence to botain a different outcome (Yates/Strzok/McCabe).

The referral is in the op. Click and read the 5-6 pages. It lists the people and the referrals agaisnt them.