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originally posted by: LadyGreenEyes
a reply to: GuidedKill
The sheer magnitude of corruption here is truly mind boggling. How they can hope to accomplish anything, I'd like to know. If they do, we know the whole system is a lie.
Not that we didn't know that already.
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: slapjacks
a reply to: GuidedKill
However knowing all we know now this seems more plausible then Russian Collusion don't you think??
Ummm, how do you reach this conclusion? What do we "know" that would lead you to believe this is MORE PLAUSIBLE than Russian collusion, considering we have actual evidence of Russian Collusion. Please expound.
edit: No idea why this was enclosed as a quote, as I clearly posted outside the brackets.edit on 18-4-2018 by ClarkMDevereaux because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: donnydeevil
Don't you love how the right screams about fake news and then continually posts fake news. LMAO
originally posted by: StallionDuck
All this tells me is....
If I want to be PoTUS.....
The FBI, the NSA, CIA, the Office of of the Director of National Intelligence, Treasury financial crimes division under DHS, and the Justice Department as well as my political counterparts will do everything possible to prevent it since I'm not part of "their" team. Doesn't matter what the people vote for.
It's either who they want or they'll try to do everything possible to stop that person running with all resources possible.
Sad....
originally posted by: ClarkMDevereaux
a reply to: The GUT
FACT: George Popadopolous pled guilty to lying about meeting with a professor with close ties to the Kremlin.
FACT: Jared Kushner trying to set up a back-channel to Russia.
FACT: Michael Flynn also pled guilty to lying about meeting with Russians.
FACT: Donald Trump Jr, Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort also met with Velnitskaya as well as former Russian intelligence (despite lying about it before truth surfaced).
FACT: We now know, from Popadopolous, that Trump knew about Russia having the DNC emails, before asking them to release them (if they have them) on live television.
FACT: Kevin McCarthy and Paul Ryan caught on tape, where McCarthy says that he believes Trump is on the Russian payroll. Ryan urges everyone to keep it on the DL, that's how we know we're family.
FACT: Jeff Sessions, part of the transition team, caught lying about meeting with Russians, multiple times, until photo evidence surfaced.
All of the above facts preceeded by Trump and all of the above denying having ANY contact or dealings with Russia. We've come to find that over a dozen Trump officials have had contacts with with Russians before and during his transition to office.
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: ClarkMDevereaux
a reply to: The GUT
FACT: George Popadopolous pled guilty to lying about meeting with a professor with close ties to the Kremlin.
FACT: Jared Kushner trying to set up a back-channel to Russia.
FACT: Michael Flynn also pled guilty to lying about meeting with Russians.
FACT: Donald Trump Jr, Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort also met with Velnitskaya as well as former Russian intelligence (despite lying about it before truth surfaced).
FACT: We now know, from Popadopolous, that Trump knew about Russia having the DNC emails, before asking them to release them (if they have them) on live television.
FACT: Kevin McCarthy and Paul Ryan caught on tape, where McCarthy says that he believes Trump is on the Russian payroll. Ryan urges everyone to keep it on the DL, that's how we know we're family.
FACT: Jeff Sessions, part of the transition team, caught lying about meeting with Russians, multiple times, until photo evidence surfaced.
All of the above facts preceeded by Trump and all of the above denying having ANY contact or dealings with Russia. We've come to find that over a dozen Trump officials have had contacts with with Russians before and during his transition to office.
Fact: Texts prove collusion of the DNC and Hillary campaign to use a falsified Dossier.
and
Fact: I cant tell you for sure that Hillary has committed Arkanicide on many people.
and
Fact: There is reasonable proof of conflict of interest by the FBI agents, Loretta Lynch, Mueller, Comey and I am sure we have others.
and
Fact: Those people at the FBI and former admin DOJ worked to FRAME (as in broke the laws and the trust of the American people) the DJT presidency with a fake Russia 'collusion' and real hard core breaking of laws to frame the Trump team.
originally posted by: Scrubdog
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: ClarkMDevereaux
a reply to: The GUT
FACT: George Popadopolous pled guilty to lying about meeting with a professor with close ties to the Kremlin.
FACT: Jared Kushner trying to set up a back-channel to Russia.
FACT: Michael Flynn also pled guilty to lying about meeting with Russians.
FACT: Donald Trump Jr, Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort also met with Velnitskaya as well as former Russian intelligence (despite lying about it before truth surfaced).
FACT: We now know, from Popadopolous, that Trump knew about Russia having the DNC emails, before asking them to release them (if they have them) on live television.
FACT: Kevin McCarthy and Paul Ryan caught on tape, where McCarthy says that he believes Trump is on the Russian payroll. Ryan urges everyone to keep it on the DL, that's how we know we're family.
FACT: Jeff Sessions, part of the transition team, caught lying about meeting with Russians, multiple times, until photo evidence surfaced.
All of the above facts preceeded by Trump and all of the above denying having ANY contact or dealings with Russia. We've come to find that over a dozen Trump officials have had contacts with with Russians before and during his transition to office.
Fact: Texts prove collusion of the DNC and Hillary campaign to use a falsified Dossier.
and
Fact: I cant tell you for sure that Hillary has committed Arkanicide on many people.
and
Fact: There is reasonable proof of conflict of interest by the FBI agents, Loretta Lynch, Mueller, Comey and I am sure we have others.
and
Fact: Those people at the FBI and former admin DOJ worked to FRAME (as in broke the laws and the trust of the American people) the DJT presidency with a fake Russia 'collusion' and real hard core breaking of laws to frame the Trump team.
Yeah.
You'd have a far better case (you and GUT who is fact-proof, he simply lists "FACTS" such as Uranium-1, despite debunked over and over and over, regardless, you would have a much much better case IF:
Comey did not write the letter about Hillary's emails to Congress 10 days before the election, effectuating a wild swing in polls (2-3%), resulting in a victory that occurred due to 80,000 votes over 3 states, a sliver margin, and the Comey letter was a gigantic turning point.
The letter is an actual fact, as opposed to GUT's "facts."
Another fact, Guiliani, who was both extremely close to the Trump campaign (angling to be Attorney General) told Fox News 3 days prior to the Comey letter that an October surprise was coming, they asked what, he said "You'll see" and smiled like the cat that ate the canary.
Comey says he ha to put the letter out IN PART bc the NYC FBI office - virulently anti-Hillary - was going to "leak it" anyway.
The Comey letter was about the one single worst thing that the FBI/DOJ could have done against Hillary and on behalf of Trump. There is no conceivable way in the real world, we're talking the real world now, that there is some giant conspiracy to tape Trump, etc. by the FBI and Obama administration, and yet Comey issues the letter, there just isn't, and there's nothing you can do to argue around it.
You would have a FAR easier time convincing me there was anything even worth looking at regarding some sort of "plot against Trump" had any of it leaked prior to the election. NONE of it did. In fact, the closest thing that came to "leaking out" prior to the election was Harry Reid's letter in fury to Comey (this man who is supposedly against Trump) about the fact he would release a letter like that (which - like all Republican "scandals against Dems, amounted to exactly nothing after the headlines), referencing re-opening the Hillary investigation, when he had information that the FBI ALSO had Trump under investigation for contacts with Russia.
That is just called "real world" type of stuff that doesn't go over well here, where Trump never could possibly have done ANYTHING wrong, despite being in business with the Russian mob for over a decade. It HAS to be a giant conspiracy involving the ENTIRE intel community, because if it isn't - you MIGHT have to believe some of the evidence coming out.
You won't even trust OTHER COUNTRIES" INTEL COMMUNITIES who have come to the exact same conclusion, so THEY are in on it, too, apparently.
It is all a conspiracy against Trump, the man who worked with models, real estate, casinos, golf courses that lost money, and Russians, over and over, Russians, none of it can be true, it MUST BE THE CLINTONS - after all, GUT says Hillary has killed people, so why wouldn't she be involved in all this?
This is insanity. There is evidence everywhere on Trump, and you continue to ignore it and work to pin on the people you hate already. In reality, Obama knew all about Trump's ties to Russia and said nothing, he knew Russia was f'ing with our election, and said nothing, all so as NOT to appear political, appear "anti-Trump." He's simply a better man that you know or deserve (to the extent that you're now bringing him in on this).
You are also ignoring the fact that Trump is clearly terrified of both the evidence that is being found, AND Russia. In fact, he hung his own U.N. Ambassador out to dry over the weekend. Even on progressive sites we were saying of Niki Haley's speech (and the decision) "Wow, maybe they really are going to get tough with Russia" - NOPE. It was walked back w/in 24 hours, and don't think that Haley doesn't know exactly what happened. Someone got word that Russia didn't like what was said, and thus took it back. We STILL have yet to do anything to Russia.
I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
originally posted by: donnydeevil
Don't you love how the right screams about fake news and then continually posts fake news. LMAO