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originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
a reply to: Zanti Misfit
If you're needing assurance then you have already put the shackles on.
originally posted by: nightbringr
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: theantediluvian
The conflating of child pornography and stolen passwords with free speech is lazy.
Then why not answer the question instead of lazily avoiding it? If there is one place where censorship SHOULD be allowed, is to protect those most vulnerable in society. Do you disagree?
originally posted by: Krahzeef_Ukhar
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Not one human being has come under death, injury or corruption because he happened to hear certain combinations of words and sentences deemed dangerous by some censor or bigot, yet the bodies of censored men and women litter the earth, their works stolen and destroyed because censors fear the opposite.
I don't believe that for a second.
Speech is a very powerful and can be a dangerous thing.
I'm 100% for free speech, I support your right to yell "fire" in a theater.
But the best argument for free speech is the power of it.
Trying to belittle the effects that words can have on people only hurts your argument.
and we are retarded for supporting it
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Speech is not powerful. Speech is only the extension and articulation of thought.
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: nightbringr
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: theantediluvian
The conflating of child pornography and stolen passwords with free speech is lazy.
Then why not answer the question instead of lazily avoiding it? If there is one place where censorship SHOULD be allowed, is to protect those most vulnerable in society. Do you disagree?
I do disagree. By making people victims of speech you only weeken them to it. There are not victims to speech.
originally posted by: nightbringr
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: nightbringr
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: theantediluvian
The conflating of child pornography and stolen passwords with free speech is lazy.
Then why not answer the question instead of lazily avoiding it? If there is one place where censorship SHOULD be allowed, is to protect those most vulnerable in society. Do you disagree?
I do disagree. By making people victims of speech you only weeken them to it. There are not victims to speech.
Censorship also covers images. Don't be obtuse, you understood my question.
You then disagree with the censorship of underage porn? Just so I understand.
originally posted by: Incandescent
a reply to: LesMisanthrope
There must be at least a few caveats on freedom of speech if we are to maintain a civilised society. 100% unrestricted freedom of speech is not logically a good idea. For example, what if somebody in the US wants to do a speaking tour of universities about becoming jihadists. Would you really be all for somebody advocating for people being allowed to promote and network fellow jihadists to promote the killing of Westerners and non-believers on campus?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: nightbringr
Child porn is an infringement of under-aged minors rights.
Are you for infringing on the rights of a minor?
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: nightbringr
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
originally posted by: nightbringr
originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: theantediluvian
The conflating of child pornography and stolen passwords with free speech is lazy.
Then why not answer the question instead of lazily avoiding it? If there is one place where censorship SHOULD be allowed, is to protect those most vulnerable in society. Do you disagree?
I do disagree. By making people victims of speech you only weeken them to it. There are not victims to speech.
Censorship also covers images. Don't be obtuse, you understood my question.
You then disagree with the censorship of underage porn? Just so I understand.
There are two types of people who say child porn is free speech, advocates for censorship and people busted for child porn.
You think child porn is free speech? Just so I understand.
Child pornography is not speech, in my opinion. It is contraband, the product of despicable crimes. If you want to call child porn speech, and the criminalization of its dissemination and production censorship, be my guest.
On the other hand, there was an artist in Finland who made an art piece which contained child porn, which she readily found on the internet. The piece was meant to bring awareness to the availability of child pornography. Her show was cancelled and the work confiscated by Finnish authorities. I disagree with that decision.
originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: DBCowboy
WTF lol After I read your second sentence I was rolling around laughing and crying. You make a good point but to put it the way you did is funny. You get a star sir. Was that the name of your band in college?
originally posted by: nightbringr
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: nightbringr
Child porn is an infringement of under-aged minors rights.
Are you for infringing on the rights of a minor?
Of course not. I'm simply asking the 'no censorship at ANY cost ' OP if she would allow it.
originally posted by: GuidedKill
originally posted by: Allaroundyou
a reply to: DBCowboy
WTF lol After I read your second sentence I was rolling around laughing and crying. You make a good point but to put it the way you did is funny. You get a star sir. Was that the name of your band in college?
His band name used to be dicking bimbos cowboy..but he had to shorten to DBCowboy for forum rules.
Correct me if I’m wrong but it was originally you, bill and bill in the dicking bimbos cowboy correct?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: nightbringr
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: nightbringr
Child porn is an infringement of under-aged minors rights.
Are you for infringing on the rights of a minor?
Of course not. I'm simply asking the 'no censorship at ANY cost ' OP if she would allow it.
Infringing on another's rights is not a protected right.