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the UK has acted transparently
I'm really struggling to figure out why Kostov said it's a new family of agents
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Jay-morris
The OPCW basically agrees Porton Down and the UK's analysis of all this.
I don't think that Boris is a moron, he is actually quite obviously highly intelligent. I can't stand him, though.
Yes, I know that the West has done terrible things in the ME. I have often said that Tony Blair is a war criminal who ought to be behind bars.
But, it is bleeding obvious that Russia was behind the Skripal's poisoning. Yes, Boris was foolish, but how about the sheer volume of lies coming from Russia, the BZ and Swiss lab BS for instance? How many times has Russia's story changed?
Yes, I'm based in Salisbury. I can't help that, you know.
Iraq + Libya does not = Russia can do no wrong
originally posted by: Jay-morris
Sorry, but that is not evidence to justify a nation saying it was them!
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Jay-morris
I think that I have already answered all this, you are just repeating yourself.
I entirely agree with you on Iraq and Libya but you cannot just use that to blame everything bad that happens on the west, which is what you keep parroting.
I entirely agree with you on Iraq and Libya but you cannot just use that to blame everything bad that happens on the west, which is what you keep parroting.
originally posted by: paraphi
originally posted by: Jay-morris
Sorry, but that is not evidence to justify a nation saying it was them!
It has been spelt out on numerous occasions, perhaps even in this long thread.
The UK and others think that Russia is either directly, or indirectly involved because:
1. They had the means and motive to attempt to kill murder an ex Spy.
2. They have done this type of thing before.
3. The physical evidence of the nerve agent.
4. Other, undisclosed intelligence that seems to have compelled everyone else to act.
I can add that Russia are not acting like a helpful innocent party, who want to clear this all up and demonstrate that they are innocent. From the outset Russia have been obstructive, belligerent and have attempted to disrupt the investigation etc...
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Jay-morris
If your position is simply that anything bad that happens in the Middle East is always, but always, the West's fault then there is not much point trying to engage you in any meaningful debate.
If no one finds this dubious, then they never will, and were most prob the same people who were behind the West when it can to the Iraq and libya invasions.
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: PublicOpinion
That poster keeps parroting that everything in the ME is automatically the West's fault because: Iraq and Libya. That's what.
What "PR soundbites"?
What "attack on the constitution"? What does this mean?
What "attack on the constitution"? What does this mean?
originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: PublicOpinion
If no one finds this dubious, then they never will, and were most prob the same people who were behind the West when it can to the Iraq and libya invasions.
See what I mean? Iraq, Libya. Rinse and repeat.