Russia and Syria block chemical weapons inspectors access to the site in Douma

a reply to: tadaman


Go away. It's a lovely day here and you are just harshing my vibe. Man.

a reply to: oldcarpy

So leave. You are offtopic, personal, and wrong about the subject at hand anyways.

Go smell flowers and pretend to be happy while you advocate for war. Barbarian.

I hope a bee stings your nose while you are out smelling the roses.

a reply to: DreamerOracle

I've addressed this a number of times in this thread already. Spiez more or less called Lavrov out for being a liar and that they have no reason to doubt Porton Down's analysis.

There's a meeting of the OPCW Executive Council today. More information should be forthcoming.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Spiez more or less called Lavrov out for being a liar and that they have no reason to doubt Porton Down's analysis.

You've got a source for that?

a reply to: PublicOpinion


"Paid shill". Absolutely pathetic.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Spiez Lab

originally posted by: alldaylong

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: oldcarpy

am sure that Russia is grateful for types like you that blindly believe in their ridiculous propaganda. "Useful idiots", I believe the term is.

And the Military industrial complex thanks you.

Yes that is the term. Correct.

Here is a bit of fun trivia for you.

Phillip May, husband to British Prime Minister Teresa May, is a Senior Executive at Capital Group

Capital Group are the largest investor in BAE Systems, and also an investor in Lockheed Martin. Both companies are the producers of War Machines.

Just a coincidence isn't it ?

This is how fake news starts take a fact and omit important details. Capitol group is a hedge fund operator. They will have hundreds of these and invest in thousands of companies. To say there invested in say Lockheed Martin is stupid. Being a hedge fund operaror you can name any company and most likely they will have clients invested with it. What they do is rate investments for their clients and if they choose invest for them. Hedge funds are pools of underlying securities. The profit they make is off how much profit their clients make on the market.

In other words you bought into what I assume is Russian propaganda.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: PublicOpinion

Spiez Lab

Yes Lavrov was caught lying again reminds me of Ukraine. Russia uses the same tactics first deny deny deny. Then as said lies start to be noticed you start supplying alternative realities in other words conspiracies. Come out with all kinds of accusations the more the better . Then you demand proof of the accusations even when supplied to you deny you got it. Then stage 3 send out shills to push fake narratives to make people think there is reason to doubt the facts. This is where Russia is out right now with Syria. They want you to believe evidence doesn't exist. They want you to believe that it could have been someone else. And they want you to argue for them against logic and facts but instead prey on emotions. Because people that use emotions do not use logic in judging facts.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Thought so, thanks. They more or less didn't call him out then.



From the statement delivered by Ambassador Krassimir Kostov:

Due to the mode of action of the toxic chemical, the symptoms, and the clinical presentation of the three individuals, the toxic chemical is categorised as non-scheduled nerve agent. In addition, the OPCW notes that the chemical was of high purity, indicating that the chemical 2 is not volatile and degrades slowly. All this is cause for grave concern as we now face a clear case of a new family of toxic chemicals intended to kill.

www.opcw.org...

Err... what?!? Old Sowjet stuff or new family of toxics, which is it now?

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Here is todays briefing from the OPCW meeting - the full text is in your link:

Extract from OPCW briefing


This should put to bed what Mr Lavrov and some on here have been falsely claiming about the BZ agent thing. Can't get much clearer than this.

a reply to: oldcarpy

well.. your link doesnt work

so... no, thats not really clear

a reply to: oldcarpy


Bum. Can't get the link to work.

a reply to: Agit8dChop

Terribly sorry about that. Here is the link. From page three. Pretty clear that the BZ claims are bunk.

OPCW Briefing from today's meeting

a reply to: oldcarpy

The British delegation to the OPCW has admitted that international chemical weapons inspectors did not confirm the origin of the nerve agent used in the Salisbury ex-spy poisoning.
The UK’s representative to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Peter Wilson, said identifying the nerve agent is an “essential part of the investigation,” and that the OPCW has identified neither its origin nor the laboratory where it was produced.

"But of course, while the identification of the nerve agent used is an essential piece of technical evidence in our investigation, neither DSTL’s analysis, nor the OPCW’s report, identifies the country or laboratory of origin of the agent used in this attack," he said.

The British delegation to the OPCW has admitted that international chemical weapons inspectors did not confirm the origin of the nerve agent used in the Salisbury ex-spy poisoning.
The UK’s representative to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), Peter Wilson, said identifying the nerve agent is an “essential part of the investigation,” and that the OPCW has identified neither its origin nor the laboratory where it was produced.

"But of course, while the identification of the nerve agent used is an essential piece of technical evidence in our investigation, neither DSTL’s analysis, nor the OPCW’s report, identifies the country or laboratory of origin of the agent used in this attack," he said.

open source..

in other words, total horse crap nonsense from the internet is what the British used..

what a total load of crap

a reply to: PublicOpinion


Your link is to some pretty lengthy stuff - can you help me pinpoint this bit you refer to? thanks in advance.

a reply to: Agit8dChop


Not really, no. You cannot tell from a sample where it was manufactured. You do have a thing called intel, though. And the OPCW confirmed that the Porton Down analysis was correct.

So, not from the internet.

a reply to: oldcarpy

Sure. The quote was from the "National Statements".
European Union: Statement on Behalf of the European Union Delivered by Ambassador Krassimir Kostov.

Here's a direct link to the PDF.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

Thanks. So they agree with the UK's findings and say the UK has acted transparently and that it is highly likely that Russia was to blame.

a reply to: oldcarpy

Still waiting for this so called evidence that Boris moron proves that Russia was involved in the poisoning.

Also, how long are going going to ignore when people bring up Iraq and Libya? Can't you bring yourself to admit that the West does terrible things too?

Are you that much if a brainwashed tool? Or are you just wanting attention because you live in the same place the poisoning took place?

Are you going to deny thst the West want a pipeline to run from Qatar through Syria and into Europe?

Do you see the British governments as mini Gods that can do no wrong and need to be worshiped?