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If you exclude all the conspiracy theories, which political side would you be on???

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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

None of us has ANY idea.. I would have to read the messages preceding and following that one..

The fbi has those messages and has said nothing about charging homie.. and I’m betting plotting to frame the President is a felony.. doubly so for a fbi employee..


Do you have any proof it was to set Trump up????

No..

Do you have any proof of ANY of the obama or hillary conspiracies either???

Nope..

All we know for sure is even with trump running every branch of government and law enforcement. That hillary isn’t even under investigation, but trump sure is.. and his associates have been getting indicted like they are handing out candy..




posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 08:27 AM
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a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

None of us has ANY idea.. I would have to read the messages preceding and following that one..

The fbi has those messages and has said nothing about charging homie.. and I’m betting plotting to frame the President is a felony.. doubly so for a fbi employee..


Do you have any proof it was to set Trump up????

No..

Do you have any proof of ANY of the obama or hillary conspiracies either???

Nope..

All we know for sure is even with trump running every branch of government and law enforcement. That hillary isn’t even under investigation, but trump sure is.. and his associates have been getting indicted like they are handing out candy..



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 08:37 AM
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I wouldn't choose any side. I'm a pro choice libertarian, which basically means every political party hates me.

On the bright side, I get to troll everyone!



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 09:04 AM
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I'm for the individual. I hate all groups. Basing legislation on groups of people and group interests always screws somebody. Basing legislation on the individual, we all win.

Of course nobody has tried it my way yet...



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Well, in a nutshell, I am on the side of the working people of the world, not those for whom they work.

Because no matter what you say about eliminating from the equation the conspiracies in history, the reality is that those who do the work have always been victimised and brutalised by those on whose behalf they did the work. It will, therefore, always be a righteous thing to be more interested in empowering the powerless and destitute, and disempowering the powerful and wealthy. That is the only way to attain balance, because all other methodologies permit the powerful, wealthy folk to lord it over everyone else, a severely unjust scenario by any sensible measure.
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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 10:11 AM
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a reply to: dothedew

Libertarians are traditionally pro-choice..



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: DarkSmiles

“Screwing someone” is a relative term..

If your getting “screwed” means you can’t pay rent in what is already the cheapest housing you can find . Is not equal to when someone “getting screwed” means they only get to have 3 summer homes instead of 4...


You have to make legislation for the group. The problem is with legal matters they treat every infraction as if it is the worst case scenerio..


For example the legal limit to drive under the influence of alcohol is set at the lowest possible level for someone with no tolerance..

So even if you are 300lbs and a veteran drinker. 1-2 beers can change or ruin your life. Whether there is a safty issue in the first place..


Imho the problem with government is we are allowing them to police issues that don’t actually effect a safety issue...



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

Absolutely.. and Presently the people who are the most on the work forces side is the left.

The right is presently trying to kill EVEN THE CONCEPT OF UNIONS, and any other thing that could empower the labor force..


And I do not assume that the Dems are perfect or anywhere near innocent, but they are not OPENLY trying to convince people “right to work” , citizens United and others ARE GOOD THINGS..
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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 10:29 AM
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"If you exclude all the conspiracy theories, which political side would you be on???"

The Empire. Those Stormtrooper outfits are cool.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Exactly.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 11:05 AM
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I lived on the Rez for over a year and their system of governance seemed equitable, compassionate, with a fair distribution of authority.

Basically socialism with the welfare of the tribe and its members as the prime focus.

Socially is was matrilineral but that also carried over into politics as well. Very peaceful until the "white eyes" interjected BIA bullsh!t with their powertripping materalism, nepotism, and peter principal style of organization.
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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

You would think, but it seems that with the resurgence of the Republican and Conservative crowds and views, the Libertarian platform has taken a somewhat conservative stance when it comes to that.

Either way, I'm good
I have fun with people anyway........



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 06:09 PM
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a reply to: Vroomfondel

I am not "on the other side" so I can't give you their perspective.

But from my place in the center I see the bs coming from both parties.
One party does not seem better than the other to me.

But if you can't even bring yourself to admit that what is said about the right by the left is just as true as what the right has to say about the left, well that's just showing your bias.



posted on Apr, 17 2018 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

I strongly resonate with this; it's the reason that I joined this site in the first place.

And it's honestly a shame... I used to think that most people here were distrustful of the establishment in general, regardless of ideology or political affiliation. That clearly isn't the case now, however, and I'm left here wondering if it ever was.



posted on Apr, 17 2018 @ 07:49 AM
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a reply to: ihavenoaccount

I think some are. I certainly am. Any time many people are controlled by few, whether by consent or otherwise, there is a problem if you ask me.

But many folk seem to just hate it when "the other side" is in control.



posted on Apr, 17 2018 @ 09:11 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Vroomfondel

I am not "on the other side" so I can't give you their perspective.

But from my place in the center I see the bs coming from both parties.
One party does not seem better than the other to me.

But if you can't even bring yourself to admit that what is said about the right by the left is just as true as what the right has to say about the left, well that's just showing your bias.


I am not on"their side" either, so it is just as difficult for me to see their perspective as it is for you. That is why I was willing to entertain examples of what I should consider, to help me see it the way they do. I don't know if what the left says about the right is true or not because I don't hear the theories. All I hear is excuses and whataboutism and complaining. The few theories I did hear were very hard to believe. Bush did 911 and the Iraq war purely for financial gain. Come on now... Really? How can I compare that to the liberal gun grab that was a "right wing conspiracy" right up until it started happening. No conspiracy there, just truth. The right colluding with Russia to steal the election. All Russia did was put unflattering info about hillary on social media. The left actually went out in the streets in taco trucks registering illegal aliens to vote and taught them how to do it without an ID. Again, no conspiracy there just truth but if you listen to the left its all right wing propaganda.

If anyone can show me some conspiracy theories that I should consider I would be willing to look at them with honest eyes. I welcome the opportunity to see it the way the other side does. Maybe this can be the first step in finding some middle ground. Who knows...



posted on Apr, 17 2018 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

I will never assign to corporations ruling us. Reason i say corporations is because there is no government. Only the illusion of it.

Even if there weren't any conspiracies , I would still not choose any side because i do believe the bible is correct on stepping away from the Hegelian Dialectic.

Proverbs 4:27 King James Version (KJV)
27 Turn not to the right hand nor to the left: remove thy foot from evil.

Real Christians don't do politics. You can tell who they are when they are actually practicing what the bible says.

So no, We dont agree on everything. People are different and unique, and the world is less boring that way.
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posted on Apr, 17 2018 @ 06:25 PM
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I'd be like the ancient Greeks, siding with whichever movement of the moment I agreed with regarding the issue they were debating or deciding. Seems like an efficient way to do things because each movement had different people in it.



posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 03:52 AM
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a reply to: JoshuaCox

Do you want lower or higher taxes? Are you for or against abortion? Do you want the border secured or not? Do you think there should be fewer laws or more? Do you think substances should be taxed because they're unhealthy? Do you think a social safety net should be luxurious or just enough to get by until it's not needed? Do you think law abiding citizens should be punished for the actions of a few crazies or not?

See, we don't actually agree on a lot of things. This is the democrat MO during midterms. They pretend they're not a bunch of raging socialists to get power, then they become raging socialists once they have it. Watch lamb from Pennsylvania. He campaigned on a toned down version of trump's agenda. When he finally votes, it will be against trump's agenda. He might vote with trump to try to keep his seat in the november election 6 months away, but once that passes, he'll become a dem stooge.
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posted on Apr, 18 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
See, we don't actually agree on a lot of things.

You didn't even wait for the answers before coming to a conclusion.



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