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originally posted by: DreamerOracle
a reply to: nwtrucker
Deluded Fan Boy... You need a shrink.
originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: nwtrucker
Sheeeeeeit he's France's whipping boy.
Macron: France convinced Trump to remain in Syria "long-term"
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
originally posted by: snowspirit
originally posted by: amazing
Bombing another country doesn't make you a leader.
Why so angry with Syria when Israel bombed civilians and sniper shot a journalist and Saudi Arabia and Yeman doing ethnic cleansing, Turkey killing kurds...etc, etc, etc. Why are we only mad at Syria?
Just thought this was worth a repeat.
Very good point.
Agreed. Why isn't everyone asking this question?
It's called "whataboutism,"a means of deflecting. Germany used mustard gas in the Great War. That doesn't make it okay for Assad to use chlorine against his own people.
The statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.
originally posted by: Jay-morris
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
originally posted by: snowspirit
originally posted by: amazing
Bombing another country doesn't make you a leader.
Why so angry with Syria when Israel bombed civilians and sniper shot a journalist and Saudi Arabia and Yeman doing ethnic cleansing, Turkey killing kurds...etc, etc, etc. Why are we only mad at Syria?
Just thought this was worth a repeat.
Very good point.
Agreed. Why isn't everyone asking this question?
It's called "whataboutism,"a means of deflecting. Germany used mustard gas in the Great War. That doesn't make it okay for Assad to use chlorine against his own people.
You have 100% evidence to justify strikes? You have that evidence. So, was it Assads plan all along to wait until they were in the brink of defeating the rebels, in the brink if the West pulling out, to drop a chemical in his own People! It is laughable that so many people would believe anything!
Do you think it is a coincidence that Russia stepping in and helping Assad push the rebels and isis back, suddenly they are also the new monsters of the planet!
And let's not forget what this is all about! A people from Qatar through Syria into Europe!
I suppose it would be 'laughable' to believe that if Stalin was still around and was in the process of killing 20 million of HIS people, or Mao killing his millions if anyone suggested it or pointed it out. It has happened before, yes?
Yes, Trump is the leader of the world. You may not like it. That's your call. Not that what you or I think matters much. I say it is now a fact.
originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: nwtrucker
I suppose it would be 'laughable' to believe that if Stalin was still around and was in the process of killing 20 million of HIS people, or Mao killing his millions if anyone suggested it or pointed it out. It has happened before, yes?
Wow. That's a huge leap in logic.
Yes, Trump is the leader of the world. You may not like it. That's your call. Not that what you or I think matters much. I say it is now a fact.
Glad you cleared that up. What you claim is fact is nothing more than opinion that doesn't matter in the slightest.
What is fact is that Trump is not the leader of the world. He is the president of the US and nothing more.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
originally posted by: Jay-morris
originally posted by: DJW001
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
originally posted by: snowspirit
originally posted by: amazing
Bombing another country doesn't make you a leader.
Why so angry with Syria when Israel bombed civilians and sniper shot a journalist and Saudi Arabia and Yeman doing ethnic cleansing, Turkey killing kurds...etc, etc, etc. Why are we only mad at Syria?
Just thought this was worth a repeat.
Very good point.
Agreed. Why isn't everyone asking this question?
It's called "whataboutism,"a means of deflecting. Germany used mustard gas in the Great War. That doesn't make it okay for Assad to use chlorine against his own people.
You have 100% evidence to justify strikes? You have that evidence. So, was it Assads plan all along to wait until they were in the brink of defeating the rebels, in the brink if the West pulling out, to drop a chemical in his own People! It is laughable that so many people would believe anything!
Do you think it is a coincidence that Russia stepping in and helping Assad push the rebels and isis back, suddenly they are also the new monsters of the planet!
And let's not forget what this is all about! A people from Qatar through Syria into Europe!
I suppose it would be 'laughable' to believe that if Stalin was still around and was in the process of killing 20 million of HIS people, or Mao killing his millions if anyone suggested it or pointed it out. It has happened before, yes?
The assumption is that such an act by Assad 'doesn't make any sense'. That is correct. It doesn't make any sense. There's why the act would be...or was.... an insane one. That is insanity. By definition. It exists. There's no shortage of it.
I don't know one way or another whether Assad did so or not.It was in a rebel area so it's 'the rebel's did it to get Trump to act' or Assad was after that pocket of rebels...perhaps.
Trump acted. He backed up his word that any further chemical weapon use would not be tolerated. WMDs are evil. More evil than regular war, itself. Trump has his information/misinformation and has no further source and nor opportunity to timely arrive at a different conclusion.
He acted with the least damage to the most germane targets, chemical storage and manufacturing sites. An astute and adroit move which sends the promised consequence to any and all who participated and any who might act similarly.
A bitchingly tough call. That, in my books, is leadership. Putin has lost credibility...even with his supporters in the west. Putin made promises, as well. He did not keep them. (not forgetting he has invaded three neighboring regions and kept them)
Yes, Trump is the leader of the world. You may not like it. That's your call. Not that what you or I think matters much.
I say it is now a fact.
Hey, a huge leap in logic or a simple analogy.
On who's the leader of this rock, we shall have to agree to disagree.
Frankly, I'm indifferent to those that disagree with it.
I am more concerned and intrigued with where it goes from here.
originally posted by: mangust69
in fact, the United States suffered reputational damage, the whole world sees that the United States is a terrorist, not only international law but also the US Constitution is violated. This only dumb does not see. While the Trump is thinking over the new blows of Syria, Russia and Iran are discussing the post-war restoration of Syria, the issue is equivalent to 400 billion dollars which the Western countries will not see in word about the war on terror, but in reality terrorists
originally posted by: mangust69
a reply to: nwtrucker
Nebenzia and Kelly youtu.be... 0:39 clung to each other in ... gums. I'm not talking about these creatures in the United Nations, but about ordinary people from different countries who will come to the polls
originally posted by: andy06shake
How come its ok to intervene in Syria but the Saudis can get away with Murder?
Seems strange to me that its ok for some regimes to cause chaos but not for others!
Guess you need to be in "There" little club.