Things will get pretty hot by the next week

I honestly hope not, but maybe we can expect countries cutting off communication by the next week.

UK is accusing Russia of performing both the Skripal attack and negligence in the Chlorine gas in Syria.

Russia is denying both, AND saying that UK is destroying evidences of the Skripal case and also that the chemical attack was staged by foreign special services.

There are more investigations on the way, and we'll probably find out who did and who is lying about it.

To me, I think it's very dumb of Putin to perform two chemical attacks in a row knowing that all eyes are on Russia right now. Also, in the Skripal case, Mark Sedwill, an UK diplomat, said that Russia was spying on them for almost 5 years now. I wonder how difficult can be for a country with unlimited resources to kill two people. Or maybe the Russians aren't that efficient in killing people.

LONDON (Reuters) - Russia’s intelligence agencies spied on former double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia for at least five years before they were attacked with a nerve agent in March, the national security adviser to Britain’s prime minister said.

Mark Sedwill said in a letter to NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg on Friday that email accounts of Yulia had been targeted in 2013 by cyber specialists from Russia’s GRU military intelligence service.

Source

And then the response:

Update - 1.45pm: Russia's ambassador has accused the British authorities of destroying evidence in the Salisbury nerve agent attack.

Alexander Yakovenko said the UK had yet to produce the evidence to back its claims that Russia was responsible for the poisoning of former spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia.

"The British Government still hasn't produced any evidence in support of its position that would confirm their official version," he told a news conference at the Russian embassy in London.

"We get the impression the British Government is deliberately pursuing the policy of destroying all possible evidence."

Mr Yakovenko complained at the continued refusal of the British authorities to grant consular access to Ms Skripal following her discharge from hospital.

He questioned the authenticity of a statement issued by Ms Skripal through the Metropolitan Police saying she did not want to meet Russian officials.

"We are not allowed to see our citizens, talk to doctors, have no idea about the treatment the Russian nationals receive," he said.

"We cannot be sure that Yulia's refusal to see us is genuine. We have every reason to see such actions as the abduction of two Russian nationals.

"The statement made by Scotland Yard on behalf of Yulia Skripal only confirms our suspicions."

Mr Yakovenko complained they had not received the allegations in Sir Mark Sedwill's letter from the British authorities.

"It is not the right way how the serious people handle these issues," he said.

He described Sir Mark's claim that Russian intelligence had been interested in the Skripals since at least 2013 as a "big surprise".

There is a big conspiracy theory. Is UK abducting the Skripals and issuing statements in their names? I mean, why didn't they talk yet?

Some food for thought.

a reply to: vinifalou
Maybe the Russians planned it all to be 'inefficient'. This way the UK naturally wants them all out.

Russians are happy with the situation because they plan to drop a Satan 2 missile on London. One of those missiles will wipe UK, Scotland and Ireland off the planet.

Makes sense to get their guys out first without raising eyebrows.

originally posted by: vinifalou
UK is accusing Russia of performing both the Skripal attack and the Chlorine gas in Syria.

Not sure where you are getting your facts from, but the UK has not accused Russia of any chemical weapons attacks in Syria, not least the most recent atrocity. In fact, the PM has said that more evidence is needs but that the Syrian government is likely responsible because the attack was delivered by bombs, just like some of the previous atrocities. I guess Russia are guilty of association though, and guilty of not preventing this type of occurrence.

a reply to: vinifalou

So you're saying you believe Russia.
This just isnt America anymore.

a reply to: paraphi

That's what I thought. It's only trump and his reactionary impulsive behavior that we have to worry about.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: vinifalou

So you're saying you believe Russia.
This just isnt America anymore.

What is exactly wrong with a person believing something that another country claims?

And exactly how does that make America not America anymore?

AFP News Agency

17 minutes ago

#BREAKING Russia says has 'proof' Britain took part in staged Syria chemical attack

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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: vinifalou

So you're saying you believe Russia.
This just isnt America anymore.

Your right it isn't and it hasn't been for a long time! Our founders would be rolling in their graves seeing our country destroying other countries to promote Democracy!

a reply to: Sillyolme

America is run by the reptilian brains and them, as well as their allies, have been aching for some blood and guts as they always do, against Russia and their allies, since the end of the cold war.

Considering the countless lies used by the West over the years to initiate some new war in the past, it's exactly the same as Syria and like the idiots they are, no-one learns anything.

When the U.S. who has used nuclear weapons and threatened the use of them against other countries (specifically N. Korea), try and use an alleged attack of chemical weapons by another country as justification for war, well, do you not see the bad joke? Made evn more so by the fact, this has all been done before

a reply to: RickinVa

Because the media has -by now- divided your population to the point where everything is reduced to either

good / bad
right / left
patriot / traitor
trump / hillary
guns / no guns

and so on. That´s why. Stick to your team or else!

a reply to: vinifalou


Do you not get even the slightest, tiniest feeling that Mr Yakovenko is lying through his teeth?

As yourself - which is more likely - after spending weeks in intensive care having been half killed by a Russian nerve agent in an attempted Russian state sponsored assasination which also targetted her beloved dad who is still in hospital she does not particularly want to have any contact with the Russian state, or, she has been kidnapped and is being held captive by the evil UK?

How are we "destroying all possible evidence"? It has been given to the OPCW who have published a summary of the report and the non public report has been handed to Russia.

Russia dismisses the findings.

Russia's lies about all this are quite transparent and are quite comical.

a reply to: paraphi

Sorry, just corrected that.

a reply to: oldcarpy

Russia's lies about all this are quite transparent and are quite comical.

Actually Russia appears to be the only sane country at the moment, whether lying or not, and if you wan't war and more people to die, then why don't you go and fight for your glorious leaders that you trust in so much

a reply to: vinifalou

LOL, so predictable! Three days ago I posted this in "that other thread":



Sheeple programming?

Skripal - nerve agent
Nerve agent - Russia
Russia - State Duma
State Duma - Douma (Syria)
Douma - nerve agent
Nerve agent - Russia

SNIPPED

a reply to: Zcustosmorum


I want war and want people to die, do I? Just where the Hell do you get that from?

a reply to: oldcarpy

Don't worry, I'm not saying that Russia or UK is right or wrong. I honestly don't know who is lying anymore.

I'm just saying that tensions WILL arise with all the accusations we're seeing.

Don't shoot the messenger

a reply to: vinifalou

The MSM seem to attempting to sway public opinion and quickly.

Also I find this headline just absurd,

Prime Minister's assertion it is "highly likely" President Assad used gas
In what court would that stick?.


For the record I cannot find any headlining reports with this in now with most pages being 404d,

www.thewave.co.uk...

Then you have the trash media (are they not all) running this BS.

www.thesun.co.uk...

She married blood-thirsty tyrant Assad in a "secret" wedding in 2000 when he was aged 35 and she was just 25. The couple have three children.

Oh yeah such a shock to have a 10 year age gap, it is fairly obvious what the agenda is here..


I will make my own headline.

Had Assad bowed to what the west wanted then the War by Proxy would not have happened. If there was not untold unknown mercs in the country then Gas attacks may not have happened.

It is "Highly likely" all this including the #ing BS with the Russian spy in the UK that was only ever to get public opinion on the side of the Government to get the ball rolling in a War, lets be honest would Russia be in anyone's mind otherwise???.

The fact this comes as ISIS are more or less out the game is disturbing, so the way I am viewing this is the Gas attack where all false flag and we are now going to be a support force for ISIS. Who do they think will run the country after?, or what is left of it?, or what is left of many places if these assholes keep up their dick waving antics??...

Proof it was Assad in this situation is everything and thus far I have just seen pointed fingers.




EDIT::: I have just looked at comments below the current crop of war mongering reports in the MSM and it is sad that the logical minority simply asking for proof before we kill more service men is shown, that logical and just angle is being shouted down by the Facebook trash with the typical folks that believe the Government "will always do the right thing", "Assad=Hitler we must act now".

It really is amazing that a few situations and pics without context or proof is such a powerful tool, it is also worrying that after Iraq and the blatant lies that cost the lives of so many seem to have all been forgotten. Only issue this time is that Russian has big #ing guns, well trained troops and a actual Airforce that in the light of day are ridding a country of a extremist Islamic threat that is proven to be barbaric in it's approach and that the West has simply let loose in the region..

It is this mindset that will get us killed...



RA

a reply to: vinifalou


OK, I'll put my gun away then.

For now.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Zcustosmorum


I want war and want people to die, do I? Just where the Hell do you get that from?

The fact you have either avoided the news of the past few decades, or failed to understand it, and the obvious naivety in which you ooze.

Do you know, according to Russia (obviously getting both sides to a story helps in the evaluation process), not one victim of a chemical attack is known about in the medical facilities around Douma, and not one scrap of chemical toxin have been found in the soil there.