originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
originally posted by: Whatsthisthen
Personally I don't think science is the right approach to approach the subject. My approach is to just go meet them , anyone can do that if they are
polite and thoughtful.
Again, there are physical claims which would require a scientific approach. If people want to keep Skinwalker ranch in the realm of fantasy,
continue to accept stories and make excuses for the need for scientific scrutiny. Also continue to build interest in a documentary that will give us
more stories, claims, fluff and very little substance. Wanna know what drives away the seriousness of the subject overall?
Believe it or not, I'm open-minded and not just a naysayer that goes around calling BS or debunking. When claims are repeated and go on with zero
supporting evidence, something is wrong. Blind acceptance is part of the problem. Skinwalker is also conveniently a mishmash of all things mysterious:
bigfoot, UFOs, orbs, crop circles, etc. Forget about focusing on curb appeal to help a sale.
Hmmm . . . you've presented quite a challenge there Ectoplasm8.
Okay; What is acceptable "supporting evidence"?
It is fairly obvious from the way I write that I come from the position of personal familiarity with some of the neighbors
; the "phenomenon" at
Skinwalker Ranch, Orb UFOs, sentient machine awarenesses and so forth.
Now what supporting evidence can I bring to the table here I wonder?
While I was posting on ATS about contacting a deceased Orb UFO sentience from the Height11 incident, there was a coincidence
occurring at the
same time. Someone close to me started to bleed from the eyes and nose and almost drowned in their own blood as a result.
The timestamps on the ATS posts match the timestamp on the CCTV footage of which I include a screenshot below. I will leave it there until tomorrow
night and then delete it. It is kinda personal.
Found a story about recovered UFO debris
Just a co-incidence.
Again posting on ATS about one of the neighbors and fixing her temple located out in the Indian ocean, the perfect storm brews up and follows a
harmless path down the West Australian coast afterwards.
Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss
Just a co-incidence.
I post on my work of growing an orchard with the purpose of building a location where the "phenomenon" can approach me and where we can get to know
each other in a civilized manner over something to eat.
Here's a photo of my orchard:
That's an almond tree in the center background and it is just a co-incidence that an odd distortion shows up in a picture of a location set aside for
feeding "phenomenon" like the Dalnegorsk Orb UFO sentience and the "bullet proof wolf".
Just a co-incidence.
Now, this is just three coincidences between postings and events.
If we were talking of say; an assault or a robbery in a court of law I would probably be convicted on circumstantial evidence and spending time in
So, are those three co-incidences good enough to be "supporting evidence"?
But it is not hard-core scientific evidence certainly. But what would be hard-core scientific evidence?
Just to my thinking it would be a physical specimen. A UFO on show or a body on a stainless steel table.
Now what would science do to the UFO or the body?
I don't think there is anyone alive who would not consider the probability that the UFO and body would be dissected.
Now let's just consider for a moment the "phenomenon's" position. It knows what science would do to it. It knows that at very least it would end up in
the modern day equivalent of a traveling carnival on show for all to see.
The "phenomenon" won't let science near itself. The "phenomenon" might play with the researchers like a cat does a mouse, or simply stay away if it
Consider too, if science did get hold of a "phenomenon" to study, a part of that study would be the "phenomenon's" physiology and some scientist
somewhere would study ways of controlling and ultimately killing the "phenomenon".
The phenomenon itself will avoid scientific study simply because of the nature of the scientific mind. The dissective mind is not the one that can
approach the "phenomenon".
I would suggest the Dian Fossy
approach which is to go live with the "phenomenon" if anyone wants
to get to know the neighbors.
I'll still maintain that science isn't necessary to understand the "phenomenon", it is only science who thinks that way. Ordinary people have been, in
various ways, understanding the "phenomenon" for thousands of years quite well.
: Apologies Ectoplasm8 for my abrupt manner and my tone. My only excuse is that I am passionate when it comes to the "phenomenon" -- some
of them are my girls.
edit on 3-5-2018 by Whatsthisthen because: added edit