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posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 09:05 PM
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Correction , Obama is the first Bi Racial president. His mother was white and his father Kenyan. Just clarifying your “some what black “comment that some may interpret the wrong way.
He was not this country’s first black president as a lot of people portrayed him to be. was a reply to: Xtrozero




posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 09:14 PM
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originally posted by: TacoLoco75
Correction , Obama is the first Bi Racial president. His mother was white and his father Kenyan. Just clarifying your “some what black “comment that some may interpret the wrong way.
He was not this country’s first black president as a lot of people portrayed him to be. was a reply to: Xtrozero



I was kind of being snarky...

Somewhat also refers to the culture he grew up in, which was white.
edit on 12-4-2018 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 09:20 PM
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a reply to: TacoLoco75

What percentage of bloodline is required for one to qualify as black?



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 09:27 PM
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I hear this a lot from people who think like you. And then I ask “please tell me how and show me examples of this please. “. Most cannot and just come back with an angry face or just keep speaking jibberish. a reply to: CB328

Please eloborate.



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 09:28 PM
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“How do civil wars happen?
Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can’t settle the question through elections because they don’t even agree that elections are how you decide who’s in charge.
That’s the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.
The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it’s not the first time they’ve done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.
What are sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election they don’t win. It means they don’t believe transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.
That’s a civil war.
There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. The Democrats have rejected our system of government.
This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.
Your very own dictatorship.
The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time a Federal judge issues an order saying the President of the United States can’t scratch his own back without his say so, that is civil war.
Our system of government is based on the constitution, and that's how our Country is supposed to be run. The Democrat's system is that any part of the government it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.
If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He’s a dictator.
But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can’t do anything. He isn’t even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has “discretion” to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn’t even have the “discretion” to reverse him. That’s how the liberal game is played. That’s how our country has been run. Sad but true, although the left hasn’t won the fight yet.
When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren’t even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn’t allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.
The Constitution has something to say about that.
Whether it’s Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.
Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can’t serve if you’re not a member. If you haven’t been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren’t in the club. And Trump isn’t in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren’t in the club with him.
Now we’re seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them, and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.
That’s not a free country.
It’s not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an “insurance policy” against Trump winning the election. It’s not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It’s not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It’s not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn’t supposed to win - did!
Have no doubt, we’re in a civil war between a conservative volunteer government and a Socialist Liberal professional government who has become the enemy of this Nation... and its Constitution.”



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 09:34 PM
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the ends justify the means huh? you mean kind of like how the right willfully and knowingly elected a man with ZERO experience divorced morally bankrupt "lesser of two evils", i'm not saying hilary or bernie would have been any better but then again i couldn't vote for either of them either.



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 09:34 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
The ends justify the means. Sure doing some questionable things is OK as long as TRUMP is removed. Perhaps the rules were bent a bit, perhaps things haven't gone like they would otherwise, but as long as the end result is TRUMP being removed, this is all OK.

That is the way the left seems to justify the actions of those who are working so hard to remove the POTUS.

And I say "the left" meaning those who oppose Trump to the point of action. So if you aren't "left", but you think that what's going on is just super, then you fit in with the "left" I speak of.

This is not to say that I think Trump is the greatest or even good, he is however, the duly elected representative of the country I reside in. This country that has many things in place to protect the process that enabled him to rise to this level. When you try to usurp those "things", you are going against everything those things stand for. Everything our system stands for.

Now, to the warning.
If you think that ousting Trump will end this kind of behavior, you are an idiot. This type of thinking and way of doing things will become the new norm. when a true to form lefty gets elected, you will see massive backlash, hookers coming out of the woodwork to tell of their sexual escapades with the leader, all sorts of horrible accusations against them, likely to the point of an strong push to impeach, based on nothing more than a strong dislike of the person. You can't do stupid # like this and hope that it won't come back around to slap the stupid right out of you later. Life just isn't like that. KARMA is a real thing. It may not be scientific, but it seems to work wonders.

So enjoy your smug arrogance now, the hand of fate will not flinch when it's time to pummel your dumb ass.

And as always, have a super day!


You call someone ELSE smug?

You forgot to point to a rule that has been bent, because I haven't seen one yet. It is only the right that is convinced that there are issues with the FISA court, no one else has even the least bit of a concern that there was a problem, including Sessions own I.G. who had found no irregularities.

And save it with the "every hooker" blah blah blah story, ever since Clinton, the Republicans have done nothing but try to deny the two Democratic presidents the rights to act like presidents. Benghazi got how many investigations? You have people here who believe the Clintons have killed people, and we heard so many crocodile tears about the "IRS Scandal" that eventually found that the ONLY 501(c)(3) denied their tax exemption was a liberal organization, AND, that liberal entities were treated similarly.

So, again, please save it with the "hell hath no fury like a Republican shamed" - Republicans have been in "impeach the Democrat, castrate the Democrat" mode of operation since Clinton, denying Obama the right to name a Supreme Court Justice, looking to investigate anything, Kenneth Starr going from a land deal in AR to a stained dress, but it's going to get much worse, right?

I have an idea! Run a friggin normal person next time and see what happens. You run a mob'd up NYC playboy who had been involved with Russians and lying his ass through bank failures for 2 decades and this was what was going to happen.

Please, acting as if Trump deserves ANY benefit of the doubt. Just a week ago, I heard that Mueller had exonerated Trump, people here were giddy, and I couldn't tell them otherwise, what it all really meant. Now ABC news is reporting that Trump won't meet with Mueller, like all guilty defendants, he doesn't want to be held to answer. Cohen now is talking about taking the 5th - great, the president's longtime personal lawyer needs to take the 5th Amendment. But, this is all a witch hunt, it's all so unfair, snowflakes! Cohen was recording phone calls with people he threatened! Jesus, these people.

You nominated a thoroughly corrupt, terribly incurious, below average intelligence and intellect, and world class arrogant dolt. What would you expect?

There were 16 normal people on that stage. EXactly NONE of them would be going through what Trump is putting the country through right now. But, you had to nominate this guy.

Thx for the warning, but all you're saying is that the next Dem will have it like the last 2 - no problem, we know the drill.



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 09:41 PM
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originally posted by: VVV88

“How do civil wars happen?
Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can’t settle the question through elections because they don’t even agree that elections are how you decide who’s in charge.
That’s the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.
The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it’s not the first time they’ve done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn’t really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There’s a pattern here.
What are sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don’t accept the results of any election they don’t win. It means they don’t believe transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.
That’s a civil war.
There’s no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. The Democrats have rejected our system of government.
This isn’t dissent. It’s not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they’re the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections you don’t win, what you want is a dictatorship.
Your very own dictatorship.
The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it’s inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time a Federal judge issues an order saying the President of the United States can’t scratch his own back without his say so, that is civil war.
Our system of government is based on the constitution, and that's how our Country is supposed to be run. The Democrat's system is that any part of the government it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.
If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He’s a dictator.
But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can’t do anything. He isn’t even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has “discretion” to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn’t even have the “discretion” to reverse him. That’s how the liberal game is played. That’s how our country has been run. Sad but true, although the left hasn’t won the fight yet.
When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren’t even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn’t allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.
The Constitution has something to say about that.
Whether it’s Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.
Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can’t serve if you’re not a member. If you haven’t been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren’t in the club. And Trump isn’t in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren’t in the club with him.
Now we’re seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them, and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.
That’s not a free country.
It’s not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an “insurance policy” against Trump winning the election. It’s not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It’s not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It’s not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn’t supposed to win - did!
Have no doubt, we’re in a civil war between a conservative volunteer government and a Socialist Liberal professional government who has become the enemy of this Nation... and its Constitution.”



Wrong, but how Republican of you to frame it that way.

The Mueller investigation is not about overturning an election, it is about investigating whether the president committed a crime - are you not interested in whether he did or did not? It doesn't sound like it. Sounds to me like you hate Democrats enough that even when we use the constitutionally mandated processes by which to A) investigate, and then B) possibly remove the president because of a crime (presuming a crime is found), YOU refuse to abide by the constitution.

YOU are the one who wants to "win" your election, however your guy feels like doing it, legally or not, then have your guy above the law. That's called a dictatorship. That is called ignoring the constitution.

Conservatives believed they could ignore the constitution one other time in the past and it launched a civil war then, too. You do so again, and you will be met with the same thing. You've decided you don't care if your guy is involved with Russia, or obstructed justice. You've already decided there's no rational basis for Mueller, and don't have time to hear his findings.

Sounds like you're ready for war for your dictator. That's fine.

But, don't say that it is the Democrats hating on your president too much to try to overturn an election. We're not even half as far as Ken Starr got, and you're lecturing Dems on who hates fellow citizens too much to agree on an election?

This has nothing to do with the election, it's whether Trump is a criminal. YOu don't care. You care that he's not a democrat. That's a problem.

*Bonus points for stating that Democrats don't see Republican presidents as "legitimate" - when you impeached the 2nd to the last Dem over a BJ (not a land deal in AR), and with Obama, determined he wouldn't be cooperated with under any circumstances, not once, that him being a one term president was a higher priority than the country doing well (Mitch McConnell), not even granting a hearing to Judge Garland, AND, in the last 2 of the last 3 Republican presidential victories, the Republican got less votes .... But we're the ones that don't see Republican presidents as "legitimate."

You're a piece of work.

You've completely written off even the possibility that Trump is every bit as corrupt as he acts, and has been long known to be. You believe he should be above the law, "super-legitimate."
edit on 12-4-2018 by Scrubdog because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 09:48 PM
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a reply to: VVV88

Damn.


That was very well said.



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 09:59 PM
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a reply to: VVV88




posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Pretty much.

I'd use the applause gif that people use a lot, but I'm not sure where to find it.

You can't play a game if no one else uses the rules, and if we don't follow the laws, then we don't actually have a civil society.

So how long has it been since we lost our civil society?



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: amazing




A lot of us don't like Trump because he's just not a good leader.


I said the same thing about Obama and would basically be called racist.

========================

Personally I don't care if some leftist twit wants to be a twit... just leave me and mine alone. But that's the problem they don't leave you alone, they feel they know a better way for me to live.

This forces me to be much more involved in politics than I ever wanted.


I don't feel that way? I remember there was a lot of hatred for Bush and Obama. I just vote my conscience, argue about it on here, delete those that are too obnoxious from my social media accounts and don't watch the news. I don't feel like anyone is infringing on my rights, but again I vote for who does it the least.



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: network dude


Well said.

I would like to think that their ignorance could simply be looked over, but as they say, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I work in the upper tech level of a major ISP and occasionally I have to speak with customers who have had issues that go beyond your typical help desk and their escalations, and the entitlement is just absurd. I have also noticed that this entitlement has not only gotten much worse in the past few years, but it’s also permeating the very businesses that we all work in. Businesses are structuring themselves to appease this entitlement simply because the leftist media has made it so popular.

The problem is, that you’re right....this is all going to come full circle one day, and another country is going to recognize America as a pu##y country (almost there now) and they are going to attack because the left wing are like spoiled, little entitled children, and anyone can whip a child’s @$$. I no longer live in America after 911 and let me tell you, the countries outside of America no longer see us as a bully or even tough....because of the Mainstream Media, they really do think that all of us are like Liberals....weak, frail, complaining babies, and we are a joke to other countries now.
They do however, fear Trump. Obama was a sissy to outside countries that I have been to. Respected, because of his lies, and limpwristed orator skills, and quite frankly...simply because he was black. The way they see it, Why not attack America? Hell, believe it or not I even heard Canadians bragging how much their military and snipers were better than our Navy Seals. Those comments would have NEVER happened in the past. Your media is making a mockery of our country, and I’m not coming back until this Liberal BS has been rooted entirely from our Republic, or unless I have to come back to fight for America and help those that deserve it. The Liberals I will be sacrificing to the enemy.


Unfortunately, the Liberal entitlement and their propensity to burn all bridges just to get back at Conservatives, simply because Trump won, will make them suffer 10 times more...because they’re weak in spirit. They focus on things like “acceptance” “Transgenders”, stupid names like LGBTQAIPABCDEFG...whatever imaginary gender they can think of next when it’s all in their heads, “racial reparations” (although none of them has ever picked cotton a day in their lives, female entitlement using the Affirmative Action card to get everything handed to them in the name of equality, and then claiming that men still have more rights than they do....but they can’t name one thing that proves that. I could name quite a few advantages that women have over men, even outside of Affirmative Action.

Then we have the issue of letting all people through the borders, illegal or not, just so the Democrats can have more votes, because their own countrymen and women hate them and won’t vote for them. Everything seems to be structured around the so called “minorities” while they ignore the “majority”.

If we get attacked by another country for their selfish acts of entitlement, I will not be helping the Liberals defend against the very people they flushed our country with. I will let them suffer in the bonfire that they have kindled. They will be treated like an American ( not liberators) by any imposing force, be it Muslim extremeists that they want here, Mexican gangs, the BLM and Antifa crowds....I will not help protect them from these guys. I will only be helping those who tried to save our nation before it came to all of this.

Even if you’re a woman, you will get no special treatment from me. Then you'll truly know what equality is, and how great you really are, without your big government dragon standing behind your backs protecting you, doing favours for you, your entitlement programs for being a minority (which you’re not) and crapping all over men in the process.

You will defend yourself, because we men (real men, not White Knights) have all heard it before....”I don’t need a man, I’m a strong and powerful woman!”. “Hear me roar” and all that garbage.

One day, THAT will be put to test. Let’s see who you call on then.
edit on 12-4-2018 by IlluminatiTechnician because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
a reply to: network dude


Well said.

I would like to think that their ignorance could simply be looked over, but as they say, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I work in the upper tech level of a major ISP and occasionally I have to speak with customers who have had issues that go beyond your typical help desk and their escalations, and the entitlement is just absurd. I have also noticed that this entitlement has not only gotten much worse in the past few years, but it’s also permeating the very businesses that we all work in. Businesses are structuring themselves to appease this entitlement simply because the leftist media has made it so popular.

The problem is, that you’re right....this is all going to come full circle one day, and another country is going to recognize America as a pu##y country (almost there now) and they are going to attack because the left wing are like spoiled, little entitled children, and anyone can whip a child’s @$$. I no longer live in America after 911 and let me tell you, the countries outside of America no longer see us as a bully or even tough....because of the Mainstream Media, they really do think that all of us are like Liberals....weak, frail, complaining babies, andmwe arema joke to other countries now. They do however, fear Trump. Obama was a sissy to outside countries that I have been to. Respected, because of his lies, and limpwristed orator skills, and quite frankly...simply because he was black. The way they see it, Why not attack America? Hell, believe it or not I even heard Canadians bragging how much their military and snipers were better than our Navy Seals. Those comments would have NEVER happened in the past. Your media is making a mockery of our country, and I’m not coming back until this Liberal BS has been rooted entirely from our Republic.


Unfortunately, the Liberal entitlement and their propensity to burn all bridges just to get back at Conservatives, simply because Trump won, will make them suffer 10 times more...because they’re weak in spirit. They focus on things like “acceptance” “Transgenders”, stupid names like LGBTQAIPABCDEFG...whatever imaginary gender they can think of next when it’s all in their heads, “racial reparations” (although none of them has ever picked cotton a day in their lives, female entitlement using the Affirmative Action card to get everything handed to them in the name of equality, and then claiming that men still have more rights than they do....but they can’t name one thing that proves that. I could name quite a few advantages that women have over men, even outside of Affirmative Action.

Then we have the issue of letting all people throug the borders illegal or not just so the Democrats can have more votes, because their own countrymen and women hate them and won’t vote for them. Everything seems to be structured around the so called “minorities” while they ignore the “majority”.

If we get attacked by another country for their selfish acts of entitlement, I will not be helping the Liberals defend against the very people they flushed our country with. I will let them suffer in the bonfire that they have kindled. They will be treated like an American ( not liberators) by any imposing force, be it Muslim extremeists that they want here, Mexican gangs, the BLM and Antifa crowds....I will not help protect them from these guys. I will only be helping those who tried to save our nation before it came to all of this.

Even if you’re a woman, you will get no special treatment from me. Then you'll truly know what equality is, and how great you really are, without your big government dragon standing behind your backs protecting you, doing favours for you, your entitlement programs for being a minority (which you’re not) and crapping all over men in the process.

You will defend yourself, because we men (real men, not White Knights) have all heard it before....”I don’t need a man, I’m a strong and powerful woman!”. “Hear me roar” and all that garbage.

One day, THAT will be put to test. Let’s see who you call on then.


I don't get the outrage of the gender stuff. I work in a service industry and talk to hundreds of people every week...sometimes more. Individually/group settings/their businesses/my businesses and gender never comes up ever. i've never been sued/threatened or reprimanded. I only use him/her/it He/she/it Mr/Mrs/Ms

It's a made up issue. If it doesn't effect me, it can't effect you unless you make it an issue. I'm not a social butterfly, I'm ungraceful and clumsy in my speech and I miss a lot of body language and subtlety as well. LOL

But I treat every one with respect and courtesy and manners and good ettiquitte. I think that's why it never comes up.



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 10:36 PM
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It's an issue because the press makes it an issue. it's an issue because the campuses make it an issue. It's an issue because we're told that if we don't bend over backward to make absolutely certain sure that we clear the pronouns with every person we speak with, then we might be committing a microaggression against them, and if not them, then it might be against the person who would like to have non-traditional pronouns used who hears you not checking to make sure the person you're talking to is getting the right pronouns.

That person might be the new guy/gal in the cubicle down from yours, and they might lodge a complaint with your HR without you even knowing they did it.

You never when or where you will offend because it's not about whether or not you intended to offend someone; instead, it's all about whether or not someone was offended by you for some reason. And the offended party doesn't even have to be involved in the offense, but only has to be worried that what you do might cause someone else offense, so more or less, they're getting offended on someone else's behalf.



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 10:47 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: DBCowboy

Pretty much.

I'd use the applause gif that people use a lot, but I'm not sure where to find it.

You can't play a game if no one else uses the rules, and if we don't follow the laws, then we don't actually have a civil society.

So how long has it been since we lost our civil society?


After Clinton. When Bush was elected.



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 10:48 PM
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It depends on what country you're in, what industry you're in and more importantly.....how many Gays and Transgenders (and Liberal supporters) that are working with you. In the country I am in, moreover, that "part" of the country I am in, and in the Internet Service Provider industry, there are people of all types...but because of this minority status pressure and Affirmative Action, there are a lot of Gay People and supportive types that do indeed bring all of this stuff into the office and collectively flaunt it, as if its a privilege that no one can contest. If you say one word in opposition, you will be pulled into an HR office...and quick, but guess what? They can say whatever they want about Men, Conservatives and Trump because we are not considered minorities. I have even had a few females to outright sexually harass me right in front of others, and they just laugh. No one says anything, but I know what would happen if I did that even once to a female...and you do too.



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 10:54 PM
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Here's some in the vein of the OP:

Their World; Our World.



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 11:30 PM
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originally posted by: conspiracy nut
the ends justify the means huh? you mean kind of like how the right willfully and knowingly elected a man with ZERO experience divorced morally bankrupt "lesser of two evils", i'm not saying hilary or bernie would have been any better but then again i couldn't vote for either of them either.


Based upon your comment you didn't vote. Do you believe when faced with a scenario where you disagree with all options it's better to abstain? To clarify I am not insinuating if a person does not vote then they do not have a right to complain or develop an opinion.



posted on Apr, 12 2018 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Say, I have a question for the some of the old-timers...since I haven't seen a whole lot of presidencies in my time yet.

Was there ever a time in the USA where people didn't zealously hate, reject, and attempt to impeach a president before they even took office?

Was there ever a time in America where people just wanted and hoped for the common good no matter whose 'team' was representing?




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