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originally posted by: carewemust
April 12, 2018
I realize that police practice at shooting ranges, to hone their skills. But after watching the body-cam video of what happened to this lady up the road from me, I sense that the police were excited to shoot a real person, for a change.
Full Article w/Body-Cam Footage (shooting at the end of video): www.theroot.com...
On Friday, Elgin police released more than 30 unedited hours of footage showing the March 12 standoff that ended with the death of a 34-year-old black woman with mental health problems.
The bodycam and dashcam footage shows police officers trying to coerce Clements out of her truck on the shoulder of an Illinois interstate. Police officers can be heard discussing tactics as to how they planned to handle her once she exited the vehicle.
Then, seconds after Clements steps out of her car, three shots ring out, killing her at the scene.
As expected there were protests over this incident. One of the officers is still suspended while an investigation occurs.
I wonder what percentage of law-enforcement officers look forward to one day using their gun on a live target? Maybe that varies by geographic location too. Elgin, Illinois has some pretty "radical" cops on the force. They trumped up a fake charge on me one time.
-CareWeMust
originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: carewemust
Donno if it has been posted already, but this is also cause for concern.
US sheriff once said it was 'financially better' to kill than badly injure suspects
www.theguardian.com...
Something is waay off in police culture.
originally posted by: carewemust
April 12, 2018
I realize that police practice at shooting ranges, to hone their skills. But after watching the body-cam video of what happened to this lady up the road from me, I sense that the police were excited to shoot a real person, for a change.
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
originally posted by: carewemust
April 12, 2018
I realize that police practice at shooting ranges, to hone their skills. But after watching the body-cam video of what happened to this lady up the road from me, I sense that the police were excited to shoot a real person, for a change.
Hold on--from the embedded video below, you "sense" that these police officers were excited to shoot her?
Did you even watch the video? Any of it?
If you are using THAT video and incident to form your opinion that officers in general "look forward to one day using their gun on a live target," I must assume that you have intentionally thrown all logic aside in lieu of viewing the world through emotions.
These officers in this video showed an overabundance of patience and efforts to get her to come out of her locked vehicle that was damaged beyond drivability, and it wasn't until she decided to light the interior of her car on fire on the shoulder of an interstate (that they shut down because of her actions) and then emerged from the smoke-filled vehicle with knife in hand and turned toward police officers that she was shot.
While it sucks that things went down the way that they did, they did not leave the officers any other choice--she was obviously hell-bent on injury to herself, even at one point apparently holding the knife to her own throat while sitting in the ignited vehicle. Don't peddle the nonsense that these officers acted with deadly force because of some deranged desire to kill a human being.
originally posted by: gunshooter
originally posted by: Kromlech
Absolutely not. It's a last resort.
you post this with such conviction..... are you sure this is truly the case?? I mean, you're 100% sure about this?
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: carewemust
I'm fairly certain some of them do. They are only people and people are flawed.
just wanted to post a more appropriate video for the occasion so to speak....
originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: gunshooter
No one claims it doesn't happen, but yes, that video and case in the OP is NOT what he claims it is.
originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: carewemust
Wow she came out of that vehicle with knives in both hands. If they wanted to kill her they had plenty of opertunities along the way. There hand was forced as she charged them with a knife. As unfortunate as thus is you can tell she was working her way up to killing a cop.
originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: carewemust
Donno if it has been posted already, but this is also cause for concern.
US sheriff once said it was 'financially better' to kill than badly injure suspects
www.theguardian.com...
.