May calls urgent cabinet meeting amid reports of looming military action in Syria

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Willtell
Iraq all over again.
LIES LIES AND MORE LIES

Libya all over again

LIES LIES AND MORE LIES

And now they have a fool and idiot to manipulate Donald Trump

I'm no supporter of his, but his hand got forced on this one.

The left was giving him hell for wanting to pull out, and the second this alleged attack happened mainstream society got outraged people died in a civil war and demand we do something. As if people weren't already dying. And as if this is the only place.

The left, many of them are infected with the Zionist plot to destroy Syria.

Such as Hillary and many other supposed liberals... They are actually pro Syrian intervention along with McCain. This is not a left/right issue. Ron Paul, a very conservative guy is firmly against this Syrian attack and believes this was a FF or done by the jihadis over there

a reply to: notsure1

Yea.... like any world leader except trump gives one flying flip what plays on American television.. lol

Do we care what they say on Russian tv??


Hell no.


The real risk is that the NATO countries have been expanding and encircling Russia for decades.. they are surrounded.. they have no cold weather port. So they are dependent on the west allowing food and such through NATO ports.

We could blockade them to oblivion tomorrow..

The west has sanctioned them and constantly recruited all the “buffer states” that did provide a little separation between east and west..


Honestly we are F’d long term.. we have a dozen nuclear powers, and every one of them, every time they change administrators is a dice roll till we crap out and get an Armageddon

a reply to: Willtell

I think mainstream politics have been pro war for some time. I didn't intend to put blame on a side, rather blame on the system. I'm opposed to mainstream parties.

Unfortunately it's the environment we live in that allows the nation to forget our lessons only to fall into the same mistakes to benefit few and punish many.

(side note, I agree Ron Paul leans right, but he is a true independent.... One of the best IMO. He's also not a good example to use as anti war from the right, he typically has been and is anti war.)

so our "leaders" really want us to go to war and lose our lives without solid evidence?
we're run by psychopaths.

ladies and gentlemen...

time to reactivate the guillotines!

Who has huge problems at home and would love to deflect from these problems?
Let´s have a look.

UK, Brexit, May government, huge problems!
USA, puppet Trump, huge, huge problems!
France, laughing stock Macron, last i heard was that around 18% of the french people still support Macron, they only voted for him because they didn´t want a LePen neonazi government. Huge problems for Merkels puppet.

And, aren´t this the usual suspects if it comes to illegal wars, based on lies? Aren´t these exactly the states that always are first if it comes to possible wars, first in warmongering, sending rockets and throwing bombs(which contain, for sure, only democracy, happiness, schools and dwells...), destabilizing whole world regions, causing refugee streams with all that?

It`s like:

"U"SA: Hm, todaaaaay....today Syria is the new most evil enemy of the free world!
UK: Our secret services deliver the "evidence" you need!
France: Can we bomb, please, can we bomb? Please, please, dear "U"SA, allow us to be the first to bomb!

And Germany? Has to play the chearleader for the anglo-american axis, at the sideline(without functioning military), just has to do what the anglo-american axis says(for whatever reasons, maybe occupation, maybe blackmailing by the Five Eyes services, because of Merkels GDR history, keyword IM Erika...). And under Merkel this is no problem, as sad as this fact is. The Merkel government, which has not the support of the majority of the german people(now less than ever, since that Skripal case and the anti-russian and warmongering "loyalty to the [anglo-american? NATO?] alliance" stupidity), is happy to be played by the anglo-american axis. She personally wanted Germany to take part in the on lies basing iraq war, now she has got another chance to show how deep she sticks in the back of her transatlantic "brothers".

But it seems to be that this time, if it really comes to a hot war because of the anglo-american ruled aggressions against Russia, the supporters of these false flags and lies and this propaganda war against the own people, against the will of the own people, could become the first victims of their own loved war. The european PEOPLE, not the governments, have enough of dancing to the tunes the anglo-americans play.

Nobody sane here believes the Skripal story, nobody sane believes all the poison gas attacks in Syria, which happen only and everytime to times when Assads troops are about to win. With only questionable videos and eyewitness reports of the british founded White Helmets(Al Nusra) as "evidence". Nobody else on earth ever could confirm just one of these attacks as real.

The PEOPLE here in europe(not speaking for neonazi and wannabe NATO and russia anyway hating eastern europe, which loves to be played too) don´t want to be pushed into a war for anglo-american profits, a war in europe, a war against a neighbour, against Russia. The PEOPLE here can see what happened since the broken promises of the NATO east enlargement. The encircling of Russia! By the anglo-american lead NATO west. The anglo-american lead NATO west is the aggressor in this scenario:


And the PEOPLE here don´t want a war on their soil, less than ever for the one and only stupid reason to deliver material to deflect from the problems the warmongerers have at home. To deflect from the doom of the anglo-american "empire". For the cheap try to save that "empire" with a war. As crumbling empires ever tried in history.

If you, "U"SA, UK, France, want a war that is again base on lies, false flags, do it on your own!
Do it maybe on your soil(invite your enemies), but not on ours here!
If you cause the next refugee stream, then this time take the refugees you caused, every single one of them!
If you have a problem with Russia, one of our neighbours here, don´t push us in your aggressive affairs!
We know that you want to destroy Russia before Russia can create good relationships with Germany, because that is your biggest fear:



To the people around the world, from the majority of the people in Germany:
It´s only the german government that still stands by the side of the anglo-american liars and aggressors, it´s not the people here. It´s not the people that support an anglo-american ruled war in europe. Syria is just an episode, the goal is the war against Russia, and we, the majority of the german people, know that!

We, the sane people of Germany, have to apologize to the world, for the warmongering and war supporting(because obeying the anglo-american axis) actions of the german anti-people government!

if i am not mistaken if UK gose to war we will not leave the EU which is what deepstate have wanted allaong,
thats the only way they can stop us leaving without having a civil war in UK...

just a thought for the MIX

originally posted by: CaptainBeno
I think Syria is at the end of its run to be honest.

Even at the beginning of their tit for tat it was a bit of a WTF moment around the world.

There are too many false flag incidents around that region to really understand if Bashar would do a thing like gas his own people. BUT lets not forget people, this is a chap who likes to pack barrels full of explosives and metal and drop them indiscriminately on the public. The guy is a moron.

It's time to go as they say.

Bashar needs a rocket up his ass and the UK will do it. Followed by the US. Should Russia want to retaliate, well that remains to be seen. But I highly doubt they will. The know too, Bashar is a plonker of the highest order and it's time to move on.

I hear what you said but let me just say if we are picking on Bashar for (unproven) attacking his own people and murdering indiscriminately, then I raise you Bush Jr and Tony Blair.

As for Russia not getting involved, they are already involved, and I'm pretty sure they don't want another lawless state on their doorstep, much like if Syria was France the UK would be trying to put out fires rather than start them.

There is nothing more cringe-inducing than watching people of authority go through the motions of acting authoritatively. We all know it's a play act, we all know that they know we know, but still they play the charade. They know we know them to be the real mitigators in the Skripal poisoning incident, but still they insist their version is the truth, and we should swallow it whole without question.

In Syria, the chemical attack is simply being used by the west as a pretext to strike at Assad's gains against the rebels. You'll note that when Assad's forces make gains and ground, with Russian help, a chemical attack occurs, and Assad is blamed for it, giving the West a window to lessen those gains through the pretext of humanitarian aid. Turkey used chemicals in an attack in Syria and nobody blinked an eye.

This recent chemical attack is more about Russia and Putin, because Russia is the main obstacle to western success in Syria. If Assad is making gains against the rebels, why would he resort to a chemical attack...it's not logical? Let us not forget that Assad is far better educated than Trump, his decisions don't border on narcissism and vanity. Why would Assad invite an attack from the West when making good grounds? The only beneficiaries from the chemical attack are the rebels and western interests.

The west need to overcome the Russia obstacle, and the only way they can do that is to besmirch Russian reputation through false flags, which is why the timing of the Skripal poisoning and this recent chemical attack are too coincidental. Even without direct evidence, and using only claims of evidence, which have consequently been rebutted, both chemical attacks were been blamed on Russia and Putin.

The people who we in the West elected to lead us are treating us all like docile thickheads, that we will believe anything they say, without question, or without criticism. What difference does it make to a child? Die by chemical attack or die by bomb or bullet from any one of the actors in play in Syria? The child dies either way. How many children are going to die when the West launches its missile attacks? Perhaps, all the missiles from the West are 'good and kind' missiles, and will divert themselves from a target should a child be present. The West has killed and maimed children in Syria just as much as Assad's and Russian forces. The children of Syria are nothing more than expendable presences useful for spin-doctoring blame.

When the West's missiles begin to rain down on Syria, there will be nothing humanitarian about it, but more an insidious and cynical manipulation of the suffering in Syria to weaken the gains made by Assad.

a reply to: elysiumfire

Meh. Russia rains bombs and missiles on anti Assad forces every single day. It takes ground offensive to take ground, not air strikes.

BenShwar:

Russia rains bombs and missiles on anti Assad forces every single day. It takes ground offensive to take ground, not air strikes.

Apart from stating the bleeding obvious, you make no point whatsoever. Russia does not 'rain' bombs down everyday, certainly not in the way that the West wants to rain down missiles from far away. Your post is a typical non-post that addresses nothing of my entire post.