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would Russia help Iran if USA or Israel attacks nuke facility?

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posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 03:01 PM
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if Irans power station was blown up would Russia help Iran or just sit and watch as Iran attacked either Israel or USA or both with nukes??? and Israel or USa reply in kind with many many nukes makeing Iran a pile of glass in the sand.




posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 03:07 PM
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I think they would didnt Russia and Iran sign a pact. If U.S.A ever attacked Iran it Russia will help out.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 03:10 PM
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Well the definition of "help" is the main point of contention.

I'll assume russia will help to some extent, backdoor aid and equipment snuck across the border. I don't believe Russia would go all out and help them in public though,



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 03:13 PM
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Certainy not in direct combat. I think Russia has more economicaly to lose from cutting its ties with the US, than maintaining ties with Iran. I think Russia would stand back on this one. I am also certain Russia doesnt want Iran to have nukes as well, just not as badly as the US.

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posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 03:18 PM
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Its not real likely that they will. Russia has a lot more to gain by remaining somewhat on better terms with the US. Iran probably isn't worth it to them. Bush and Putin have somewhat of a friendship although they don't always agree with each other. Rationally i just don't think Russia would jump in and interfer. Its just not really to their benefit. I could be wrong, but that is my theory. No body probably knows for curtain.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 04:44 PM
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First U.S is not going into Iran cuz they think Iran is going to have nukes, if Russia wanted to sell Iran nukes they would just sell them a few warheads already fully built, Russia knows that if the were actually building that plant to give nukes to Iran would easily be spotted by U.S threw satealite so thats theory 1. "Russia's nuke plant that they are building for Iran, will allow Iran to have nukes" is totaly a lie, 2. The plant that Rus is building for Iran is "SOFT WATER" Reactor which the IAEA has confirmed, which further PROOVES U.S. is diliberatly lying about Iran's interntion, now the question people need to ask is "Well why is it U.S.A. is saying Iran is a threat?" Answer:= Because U.S. wants to go into Iran for the same reason they went into Iraq= OIL,OIL,OOOOOIIIIILLLLL! You see, this is U.S.A.'s and plan, they want to sway U.S. public opion so U.S. pop will allow a U.S. strike on Irans sites and also the strikes will try and DEcapitate Iran's leadrer, then the U.S. will hope that Iran will strike U.S. site in Iraq and also Isreal, this if Iran does this this will fall into U.S.'s plan so the U.S. will have succseeded to PREVOKE Iran to hit U.S. , so U.S. can use this opertunity to call draft and FULLY Invade Iran with 2-3 million troops, then Iran will be partitioned 75-80% will go to Isreal and the last 25-20% of far eastern Iran will be for Iranians, here is a site that explains the reason U.S. went in to Iraq and it has also the MAP of Greater Isreal" read all three parts so you can understand, Part 1. geocities.com... Part 2. geocities.com... Part 3. geocities.com... Russia will just supply Iran with weapons, and after U.S. starts getting the best of Iran thats when Russia will openly declare war on U.S.

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posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 05:02 PM
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They wouldn't like it, but I don't think Russia would find it worth fighting a direct grand scale war over, Russia has its own oil. I do think that there is a change from that point may decide to purposely sell nukes and the latest man-portable missiles/SAMS etc... to other countries to try stop usa government for further upsetting the balance of power with agressive invasions, also China might actively start proliferating ICBM/nuke technology to give the world at least a change for a small punch against the 800 lbs gorilla ...


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posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by SiberianTiger
Russia will just supply Iran with weapons, and after U.S. starts getting the best of Iran thats when Russia will openly declare war on U.S.


So, you believe Russia, to whom Iran is an idealogical enemy, would be willing to see itself destroyed, for Iran? I know Russia is a powerful country, with a huge nuclear arsenal, so no need to get overly defensive, per usual, but we also have a huge nuclear arsenal, so we would both be no more. Are you, personally, willing to see your country, your family and yourself, destroyed to defend a country that would, in the end, like to see your country fall the same as ours? I know you hate us, which is your perogative, but we're alot closer to you as a society than Iran, we're no threat to Russia, why do you want to see our countries go to nuclear war so badly? Just curious.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 06:08 PM
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SiberianTiger too bad its a ''hard water plant'' Its a IR-40 a 40MW heavy water nuclear reactor at Arak. The EU has been trying to get Iran to use a Soft water reactor instead and even offered to help with the Tech. But yet Iran declined this offer from the EU.

The Hard water plant just makes it easier to do one thing make nuclear weapons.

If you believe that Iran which sits on one of the worlds largest oil fields needs nuclear reactors for energy production



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 06:13 PM
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SiberianTiger man you really like those geocities sites
You keep linking to them like they are some kind of proof.

Russia declare war on the US
They aint the USSR anymore in a convential war they dont have a great chance to win against the US. Nukes are really their only option and thats suicide or (MAD).



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 07:13 PM
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Before war ensues between The U.S. vs. Syria and Iran, Russia will send missiles to Syria. In which case, the U.N. should apply sanctions to Moscow and kick them out of the security council, stripping their veto vote.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 07:31 PM
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Nope, Russia will not come to anyone's assistance in the event of an attack...unless there is a Cash payment involved and they don't risk getting nuked themselves.

Russia is totally into the missles for Syria and nukes for Iran for the Money...not for some mutual protection agreement. All about the money.

Being of Now



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by SiberianTigerhere is a site that explains the reason U.S. went in to Iraq and it has also the MAP of Greater Isreal" read all three parts so you can understand, Part 1. geocities.com... Part 2. geocities.com... Part 3. geocities.com...

your going to need something a tiny bit more credible than a geocities site.




Russia will just supply Iran with weapons, and after U.S. starts getting the best of Iran thats when Russia will openly declare war on U.S.

Russia is using the situation to it's benifit, in my opinion they will stop short of ruining their relations with the US.
but then again ianything is possible, leaders have made some bonehead moves in the past.....I think that we are in for some major posturing in the future, from all sides.
dark times are ahead.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Being_of_Now

Russia is totally into the missles for Syria and nukes for Iran for the Money...not for some mutual protection agreement. All about the money.

Being of Now


I cant agree more heck if the nuclear Plant and thier missiles get blown up they will just have to buy more from Russia.

Russia is looking out for Russia they dont care about Iran or Syria they are just a source of money.



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 02:24 AM
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Russia has been ready for a nuclear war scince 1962 we can evacuate 95% of our pop for anuke war , Please explain how U.S. with 600,000 trooops can deafeat us with 988,000 + troops? let me correct that 450,000 150,000 is already BOGED DOWN in Iraq, and why Rus will declare war is because U.S. is going in Iran to steal Oil, and give it to Jews in Palistine so they (Threw U.S.A. will control the whole world's energy) just like Iraq, and if you say no, U.S. didn't go into Iraq for Oil, where's the WMD's
Russia has already given both U.S. AND jews our warnings ( www.vialls.com... , www.joevialls.co.uk... )

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posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 02:42 AM
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Evacuate 95% in what the 30 minutes it would take for our nukes to hit Russia
Keep dreaming. Not even counting US subs that would take even less time.

If you want to get into numbers lets. But first how many times do I have to tell you standing armies in a war between Russia and the US dont mean squat. It all about how many you can draft because thats what would happen.

Pop.

Russia-150 million
USA- 300 Million

Yup you got us beat in troops to draft

Lets look into who has more money to equip those drafted troops.We spend about 400 billion on our military whats Russia spend again. Russia wins there too right? They got so much more money then the US. They cant even afford to put their new service rifle into production the AN-94. And since the market is flooded with AKs nobody is buying them either.

Hows Your Russian NAVY doing BTW? How many carrier groups you got going? You couldnt even get troops to the US soil. We already got tanks stationed that can roll right into Russia, No oceans to cross or anything.



If you really think Russia would survive a nuclear war with the US you better cut the dose.

And survive with 95% of your population no less
Thats classic



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 03:39 AM
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1. Russia has 20 Million reservist, 2. buy the time U.S. gets 2- 3 Million troops ready to cross in to Eastern Hemesphere Rus's troops are already in stratigic places READY to strike, let me remind you that in the middle of WW2 Russia was producing 6000 T-34's a month, (NOW with the advancement in manufacturing technology I assure we can and will produce 10 Thousand T-95's if War with U.S.) this shows you can't figure us out, I just gave our answer to the so called carrier threat posed by U.S. it's called "SUNBURN" , "ONYX", but you can't understand that can you, hehe good it will be much easier then to have a vic over you, all 11 carriers will be a radioactive mess, once Onyx and Sunburns get threw with them
after all what DID you think we invented them for?
oh as for your tanks rollin in, HA! TOTAL M1A1/M1A2/M1A3 403, now I know that not all 403 will be coming in now will the total Russian T-72/80/90's 15000+ HAHAHA come on in if you DARE from seeing what's happening to the M1's in Iraq sonny boy, you betta think MORE than twice tryin to come even 100 miles from Russia's borders


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posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 03:59 AM
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There is an interesting bible code,
that predicts Russia will aid Iran when America and Israel attack. I know this isn't the place to discuss bible codes, but it has been predicted in the past.



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 04:52 AM
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Do you have a link to that Bible code for Russia adding Iran?? or any other good Bible code sites?



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 07:07 AM
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Rule of selling and buying.

Russians provides Iran with nuke facilities/technology and Iran pays the Russians.That's all.Russia wouldn't even care if Iran's nuke facilities are bombarded by the U.S or Israel.Hell,I don't even think thr Russian would want to be a part of this Middle East mess.

They suffered badly in the invasion of Afghan some time ago and I don't think they want to suffer the same fate as before.



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