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House Speaker Paul Ryan will not seek reelection, he tells friends and colleagues

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posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

I vote Thomas Massie to replace him.

Glad to see Ryan going--he had me duped a little back in his run for VP back in 2011, but that quickly faded.

Massie is a logical, very constitution-oriented congressman, and I think that he would be great in such a position. The only problem is that, being that way, most other congressmen would work against him, so he wouldn't be able to bring everyone together in many instances.

I would still love to see him in that position, though, based on principle alone.




posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:12 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

YOU may not care that much, but I highly doubt you are speaking for "most of you". Furthermore, that is irrelevant to Ryan being a conservative or not. Ryan is a conservative whether you like the guy or not.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:13 AM
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Just seeing if I'm following some the comments; Paul Ryan =/= a conservative while Donald Trump = a conservative.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:14 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Just seeing if I'm following some the comments; Paul Ryan =/= a conservative while Donald Trump = a conservative.

I feel like we are in Bizzaro World or something.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:15 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t


I suggest Mr. Ryan announce that his favorite book is the Bible. It will dispel all doubt on his conservatism.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:17 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

In Bizzaro World it is called "The Book".



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:19 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: KansasGirl

I am thinking about the power we have. I'm counting down the days until Nov 6th and we can elect a true check on Trump's Presidency since the clowns currently in office have all had their spines removed by Trump.


Same thing happened with Obama's presidency, especially in the first two years. Then once we had a sort-of balance of power without everything being controlled by the Dems, nothing got done because Obama would veto most things that were passed that didn't align with his agenda.

Now we're looking into a funhouse mirror and seeing the exact opposite but the same result.

What's sad is that, during these times of total control (party-wise) of the executive and legislative branches, the spines should be stiffer than the effects of Viagra.

That just shows you that no one has spines in politics, or very few, no matter who is in charge. When you're the minority party or you know that you can pass anything to appease a party-line because it won't get signed into law anyhow, that's the only time that there is any semblance of backbone.

And that only fools the apathetic, with whom the country is heavily populated.
edit on 11-4-2018 by SlapMonkey because: "with whom," not "of whom."



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

In Bizzaro World it is called "The Book".


Is it that good one that I keep hearing so much about?



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:21 AM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey


I'd have much more respect for a politician and they told the truth that their favorite book is Game of Thrones.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:23 AM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey

I'd prefer to see the return of moderatism and compromise because things actually get done that way, but in the age of Trump that is unlikely since he skews towards the extreme end of his party.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: Krazysh0t


I suggest Mr. Ryan announce that his favorite book is the Bible. It will dispel all doubt on his conservatism.


So now conservatism is directly related religion? Are you just joking and being sarcastic like the rest of your posts on this site?



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:24 AM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Just seeing if I'm following some the comments; Paul Ryan =/= a conservative while Donald Trump = a conservative.

I feel like we are in Bizzaro World or something.


You guys still don't get it.

The Republican party has two wings. This is what the Trump election was all about. You have the establishment RINO republicans and you have the libertarian/anti-establishment Republicans. The RINOs are globalist, big govt, open border, types.

It isn't much different how on the left you have the Bernie kumbaya progressives and then you have the establishment Dems like Hillary.

The difference is on the right, Trump won while Democrats successfully squashed Bernie.

The RINOs hate Trump just as much as you lefties. The RINOs would have preferred Hillary won because they are basically the opposite side of the same coin. Sure there are some disagreements, but in general, it is a globalist agenda and about self-enrichment of politicians.

Trump is protectionist. About bringing jobs back to the blue collar middle america that both parties have written off.

Recall, RINOs during the primary were all for open borders until Trump even made it an issue. RINOs were for TPP. RINOs were for NAFTA.

Trump is fighting TWO fronts. The RINOs in the Republican party and the leftists in the Democrat party.

Ryan is leaving because the RINO agenda has been blocked. He is also probably preparing to run in 2020.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:25 AM
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originally posted by: SlapMonkey

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

In Bizzaro World it is called "The Book".


Is it that good one that I keep hearing so much about?

Well it's all about how great Bizzarro Superman is. So DEFINITELY.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

Just seeing if I'm following some the comments; Paul Ryan =/= a conservative while Donald Trump = a conservative.

I feel like we are in Bizzaro World or something.


You guys still don't get it.

The Republican party has two wings. This is what the Trump election was all about. You have the establishment RINO republicans and you have the libertarian/anti-establishment Republicans. The RINOs are globalist, big govt, open border, types.

Lol. No I get it. Y'all like to make tests to be a true Republican/conservative and use the RINO acronym to discredit people who aren't extreme enough for you guys.


It isn't much different how on the left you have the Bernie kumbaya progressives and then you have the establishment Dems like Hillary.

Well except that on the left we don't actively try to label people as not liberals just because they aren't liberal enough. There is barely anyone (if there is anyone at all) using the acronym "DINO".


The difference is on the right, Trump won while Democrats successfully squashed Bernie.

The RINOs hate Trump just as much as you lefties. The RINOs would have preferred Hillary won because they are basically the opposite side of the same coin. Sure there are some disagreements, but in general, it is a globalist agenda and about self-enrichment of politicians.

Trump is protectionist. About bringing jobs back to the blue collar middle america that both parties have written off.

Recall, RINOs during the primary were all for open borders until Trump even made it an issue. RINOs were for TPP. RINOs were for NAFTA.

Trump is fighting TWO fronts. The RINOs in the Republican party and the leftists in the Democrat party.

Ryan is leaving because the RINO agenda has been blocked. He is also probably preparing to run in 2020.

PLEASE stop using the acronym RINO, show that you aren't insane and call them by their actual names. Moderates. Sheesh... Part of the problem with our country is extremists such as yourself constantly making it seem like being a moderate is somehow the worst thing in the world because they may agree with some liberal concepts. Have you not realized yet that this idiocy is creating the hyper-partisan climate we are currently dealing with where neither side wants to agree with the other?



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:30 AM
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originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
So now conservatism is directly related religion? Are you just joking and being sarcastic like the rest of your posts on this site?


Why is it a joke? A bunch of suckers applauded that line when it was spoken.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:32 AM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

He just announced it.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:37 AM
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"mid-term elections ... looking treacherous for Republicans"

So a Trump presidency continues to pay dividends. I don't know why so many common folk hate him so much.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
So now conservatism is directly related religion? Are you just joking and being sarcastic like the rest of your posts on this site?


Why is it a joke? A bunch of suckers applauded that line when it was spoken.


Because I know many conservatives that aren't religious and many liberals that are. I guess I asked a serious question to the wrong poster, so just disregard. Continue on with the jokes, ATS needs them.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:44 AM
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Yeah, and sadly, so does probably 75% of everyone in government. It didn't used to be this way, at least when it finally came time to sit down and figure things out.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 09:46 AM
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Well except that on the left we don't actively try to label people as not liberals just because they aren't liberal enough


Fake news.

Cynthia Nixon Calls Cuomo a 'Wannabe Republican'

www.nbcnewyork.com...
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