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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Boadicea
Numbers are actually going the other way. Only 13% of Americans believe trump should fire Mueller. That's about one in ten.
I wonder who is telling him he can? More legal advice from his brainiac son in law who's bad advice got him in this hot water to begin with?
...Obama Administration Solicitor General Neal Katyal, one of the authors of pertinent regulations...
In summary: Trump has the constitutional power to direct repeal of a regulation that the attorney general alone may fire a special counsel; the president controls prosecution power; the regulation, if repealed, subjects Trump to all of the negative publicity that will come with such a move because he has to repeal it publicly.
originally posted by: bender151
a reply to: Edumakated
The left logic is that since the payment benefited Trump it's basically a campaign contoribution. The sale logic makes Uranium One a bribe, but the fringe left isn't too bright. Also, by this logic, if I offered a pro Hillary idiot $100 to just shut up, I'd have to disclose that as a campaign contribution to whoever her opponent might be lol
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Boadicea
Whether Trump is capable of firing him or not is really irrelevant. There are many ways he could go about disposing Mueller. The problem is if he carries through on any of those tactics. Doing such would be monumentally stupid and all but guarantee Trump's problems would be much much worse cause there is no way the Democrats would sit on this. It would almost be guaranteed to be challenged in the courts, and the liberal base is already SUPER energized for the election in November. Trump would probably be signing his own job death warrant. Of course Trump doesn't think things through, so logic like this is likely going to fly right over his head and if wants to do it he'll do it, but people really shouldn't be trying to get Trump to follow through on this if they want the best for his Presidency.
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Boadicea
The raid wasn't conducted by Mueller's team so its timing is almost guaranteed to be a coincidence.
originally posted by: Boadicea
Technically perhaps... but only to the extent that Mueller's team passed it off to someone else to do their dirty work. And given the incestuous corruption between bureaucracies, there is much room for doubt and suspicion.
And add in the level of spying and surveillance by government, at this point, anyone and everyone could be acting under duress. In other words, I have absolutely no idea who has been compromised, bribed, blackmailed or otherwise pressured -- if not outright coerced -- to do their bidding.
Even if the timing were simply coincidence, I have no respect or faith in a DOJ that refuses to turn over legal subpoena'd docs and records demanded by "the people's house." So for me (and I'm sure others) the DOJ's credibility for me is zilch.
Did it occur to you that perhaps this was done to circumvent the calls of Mueller overstepping his mandate?
Why is corruption ALWAYS the go to assumption with you guys?
Who cares? Stop being so pessimistic.
Nunes' credibility is zilch thanks to the memo fiasco. I can't believe you guys still trust that sycophant.
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Um... yeah... hence my comment about the incestuous bureaucracies complicit in corruption. Did it occur to YOU that perhaps this was done for exactly that reason? That this is in fact and in deed overstepping his mandate so he used cheap tricks to get someone else to do his dirty work so that "you guys" could make exactly this excuse for him???
Because the price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Because power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Because without transparency the truth cannot be known. Because the Constitution demands that the authorities must prove themselves and everything they do for the precise reason of preventing such corruption to thrive in the dark.
Why do "you guys" assume otherwise with absolutely no good reason to do so???
LOL!!! To "you guys" maybe... but you don't speak for me or anyone else. Credibility is subjective. Unless and until the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth is known, it's all subjective... our own opinions based on our own experiences and confirmation biases. None of us know because we don't have enough hard facts to know.
We shouldn't have to "trust" anyone in government. They should be proving themselves to us in anything and everything they do. Especially in potential criminal matters against a duly elected president. Even Trump.
No, because that is a ridiculous assumption to make and is very likely moving goal posts around to continue to call Mueller corrupt.
Yet you support undermining an investigation intended to get answers that the Trump admin refuses to answer and implicitly trust the people carrying out that undermining while not trusting the people doing the actual investigation. I call that bias myself.
So why haven't you complained about Trump greatly reducing transparency in government since Obama left office?