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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: Zanti Misfit
We also have a biological drive to fight (even to the death) for our territory.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
originally posted by: Dfairlite
First and foremost the constitution. The 4th and 6th amendments were violated pretty underhandedly. But we know they don't care about the constitution they want to get trump, regardless of cost. Remember, this is the ends justify the means crowd.
Second, they should want to get trump. That makes this pretty much impossible. Here's the thing. Cohen admitted to the payment, so it's solid evidence. BUT if it's evidence of anything illegal it's a simple campaign finance violation. It should have been ignored since there is a bigger investigation into russia going on (or is there....?) which involves the same lawyer and client. This makes it near impossible to go after trump for the bigger case.
The FBI ignores crimes all of the time that might jeopardize a bigger case. See mueller and the whitey bulger case for the most egregious of examples.
Now, this whole raid makes sense if you think that there is no russia investigation so they need anything, but otherwise, it torpedoes just about everything else they could try to get trump on.
Several carve-outs limit the reach of the attorney-client privilege, and it appears that a “crime-fraud” exception—which covers any communication containing evidence that a client or lawyer is committing or planning to commit criminal or fraudulent activity—was at play in this raid. Communications between the parties showing that the lawyer-client relationship “was used in furtherance of the alleged crime or fraud” also fall outside the protective umbrella of attorney-client privilege.
originally posted by: Dfairlite
First and foremost the constitution. The 4th and 6th amendments were violated pretty underhandedly. .
originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: Dfairlite
oooooooohhhhhh.
you studied law?
well #. i apologize sir.
you must know how everything works...