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Has anyone the courage to say it as it is?

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posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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The problem isnt that your article is racist. The problem is that your article is tone deaf.

Those afro-caribbean communities have already seen increased policing it's been that way for decades.... and it hasn't fixed any issues. All it did was fill prisons.

Yes of late the liberal mindset has pulled back on the increased policing in an act of compassion... and that too has not fixed any issues. All it did was see to an increase in tensions.

Now you want to go back to failed polices of increased policing that will do nothing but full prisons and as soon as you get your way some liberal will want to decrease policing and do nothing but increase crime rates.

And so it will go back and forth in a never ending cycle where the underlying issues are never solved.

Not racist tone-deaf.




posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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how are other ethnicities policed? in rural Manchester or the scousers.? if other high crime areas are being profiled im all for it.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 09:14 PM
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Extreme socialism or extreme local law enforcement are the only quick fixes for these kinds of problems. Nobody from the nice parts of town want socialism and there is not enough money or resources in the effected neighbourhoods to solve the problem.

You can’t police tough areas like this with cops from the nice side of town in any sort of effective manner. You have to employ people who live in these areas. You have to balance out the crime with law enforcement and culture change that fits the bill. You have to create massive clean up projects that offer alternatives to the gang life and black marked/drug culture that exists in them. It takes dedication and focus and big time resources/$$$ and the neighbourhood has to want it to begin with.. Otherwise you have to let things run the course and collapse to the state of ruin before things burn down, people pick up and leave and things and start anew..

This isn’t an education issue either, it’s a culture issue. Poor people can live happy civilised lives if they choose too.

All the talking and clamouring about from politicians and media only serves to boost the egos of those who claim to want to look like they’re trying to change things for the better, and nothing effective will come from their perceived efforts.. It’s all smoke and mirrors until the locals actually become involved..



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 09:24 PM
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a reply to: eletheia

I think if you are concerned for the safety of citizens, you need to be honest.

If the police and government can't/won't do that, how will they help? Makes you wonder.

The gun crime in the US has the same theme. Small areas and narrow demographics skew the whole. Yet to hear the MSM and politicians, all 320 million of us need to come to heel or we are barbarians.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 09:46 PM
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a reply to: eletheia

You might want to reread the op. Never is the word "immigration" mentioned. It is referenced in the wording without saying the word. Don't know if that's on purpose but I thought it interesting and worth mentioning.

Cultural tendencies due from exposure in other countries is referenced-not immigration.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 04:42 AM
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a reply to: eletheia

All I can say is after reading the online articles and seeing who is involved and the names of victims, it does seem to be something to do with the recent immigrants who have come over. Either Middle Eastern, Asian or African and some even from Easter Europe so I gotta wonder if these groups just aren't mingling or is it something else? There's hardly any British names mentioned although it could be British trying to get those who have come to their turf and started war games or gang games. I dunno. It could be peer pressure to join the gangs if you move to the Blocks, you have to join or face being killed for being in the wrong place.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 04:43 AM
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a reply to: DanDanDat

It's not Afro-Carribeans, just take a look at the list of names.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 04:54 AM
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a reply to: eletheia




As has been pointed out by himself some may consider it being racist.


Indeed. You see..it's like this.

It's because of white privilege. These knife attacks are a direct result of your country being too racist.

And the evidence is all too obvious. Why are there more whites in Britain then all other races ? You need more diversity, and then all this knife busyness will be over.

Once diversity settles in, an era of peace ensues. A long one.

I hope you turn from your racist ways...and start blaming knives. It's still not too late for you.





posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 05:53 AM
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originally posted by: MarioOnTheFly
As has been pointed out by himself some may consider it being racist.



That was exactly my point that article was written by a black immigrant of the

1950's so that is his solution How can he be considered racist??



Indeed. You see..it's like this.
It's because of white privilege. These knife attacks are a direct result of your country being too racist.


You see I dont see it like that!! It is my opinion it isnt a level playing field

as allowances are always made to the advantage of the new comers. So it

all depends on the angle which you view something.



And the evidence is all too obvious. Why are there more whites in Britain then all other races ? You need more diversity, and then all this knife busyness will be over.


I would think that it was obvious!! If I throw a party there will always be more

of my relations and aquaintenses present than others!!



Once diversity settles in, an era of peace ensues. A long one.


I have already pointed out those were the words of someone who was once an

immigrant...And in his view and his words multi-culturalism doesn't work.

So thats where your argument falls apart.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 05:57 AM
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It's racist against the rest to protect the blacks who are stabby stab stabbing everything in sight compared to anyone else.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 06:11 AM
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a reply to: eletheia

so you never noticed a bit of sarcasm in my post ?

anyway...that's strange



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 06:43 AM
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a reply to: eletheia

What's an ex-race chief?

One day you'll realize that poverty involves race as well. And I'm pretty sure that the Dailyfail wont inform you about the correlations of all three aspects in society...

Wanna guess why it's called a 'sauce'?



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 06:52 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion




One day you'll realize that poverty involves race as well


It surely does. Why are some races less successful then others ?

Defo a correlation, and it trickles down to poverty from there on.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 07:12 AM
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a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Cuz the Aryan Uberhumans (do they still drive cars or hoverboards?) have been sooo successful and all that, eh?

Sieg!




posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 05:47 PM
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originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: American-philosopher
a reply to: eletheia

I don't think it's racist per say. but more stops and checks of people of "black afro -Caribbean" backgrounds is that going to help the problem or make the problem worse, By already casting an aspersion that that background or race is bad?



But that article was written by a black West Indian man....Can one black man

be racist to another?



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: American-philosopher

(I am going to just reply to me since I messed it up.) Yes I think someone of a similar race can be racist in evidenced by the funny Dave Chappelle skit.




edit on 11-4-2018 by American-philosopher because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 05:55 PM
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a reply to: eletheia

But I am not saying the author of the article is racist I just question the solution being proposed.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 08:21 PM
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a reply to: American-philosopher

When it comes to race and hysteria, no plumbing distinctions allowed.

Details and evaluation are the enemy of empathy and healing.

//sarc off//







 
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