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Time to fire Mueller, Rosenstein, Sessions...

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posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 02:32 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Yeah that must be it,

Its not the fact that this entire investigation has led to FBI and DOJ corruption scandals and FISA court violations.....

No.

You are the good guys.

Me bad guy.


They haven't. Those are just distractions that are leading no where.




posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: Stevenjames15
a reply to: JBurns

Wouldn't bother me one bit. I have nothing to hide. Only those that do hide from it.


No problem because an innocent person has never charged and convicted.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 02:46 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Oh, well that settles it of course.

EDIT TO ADD:
Lets see what happens relatively soon. No bother checking in when this investigation has concluded and no collusion is proven. Lets just see what comes of a porn star payment by a married guy. LOL.

Big whoop.

Raid away. I just thought this is all BS and obvious at this point but hey stay hard line. I love it. The fall is enjoyable.


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posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 02:50 PM
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I really do hope Trump does have total meltdown and fires Mueller... Lots of Senators seem to be pretty damn confident it'd create a constitutional crisis and would be like a self inflicted head shot for Mr Trump.




posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 02:56 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

You suddenly seem to be trying REALLY hard to show your disinterest in this after literally being ok with starting a Constitutional crisis by firing people involved with the investigation. Now all of a sudden we should all wait and see.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 02:57 PM
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How many threads are going to be created by triggered Trump supporters over this?

Donald should just fire everyone and run the show on his own. After all, it's never Trump at fault or blame it's literally every other entity whether it be media, "Trump haters," Democrats, Illuminutty, and of course Hillary/Obama/Soros.

Lawl y'all provide endless entertainment.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:01 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6

It wouldn't be that simple.

What the law says about Donald Trump pardoning Michael Cohen


The short answer is that no one knows for sure. No sitting U.S. President has ever tried to pardon his own alleged co-conspirators, so this has never been tested in practice. If Donald Trump were to issue a pardon for Michael Cohen for his actions in the Trump-Russia scandal, the courts would have to rule whether such a pardon is Constitutional, and whether to uphold it or nullify it. From there, Special Counsel Robert Mueller would have to decide whether to charge Trump with obstruction of justice for having tried to use a pardon to prevent an alleged co-conspirator from testifying against him.

So there are three different possible outcomes. Different legal scholars have stated different views on which way they think the court might rule. The key here may be that for a judge to have signed off on a search warrant against him for the seizure of communications between Trump and his attorney, the judge must have believed there was evidence that Trump and Cohen conspired to commit a crime. This would directly paint Trump and Cohen as alleged co-conspirators, perhaps bolstering the legal argument that Trump can’t legally pardon Cohen.

One important note is that although there is no evidence that Michael Cohen has been charged with anything, Donald Trump can still preemptively pardon him. For instance, President Gerald Ford preemptively pardoned Richard Nixon at a time when there were no formal charges against Nixon. So Trump can try to pardon Cohen at any time. The only questions are whether he will try, and how it would play out legally. But the bottom line is this: if New York State brings parallel charges against Cohen, then there will be nothing Trump can do, as the president cannot pardon state level charges.


I would be impressed with the Palmer Report and Bill Palmer it he had a legal background or some reason to believe that he knows anything about what he is talking about. If it wasn’t one of the most shamefully wrong blogs on the planet I may even read it.

Really bad source.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t

Well I dont recall any plans to storm the hill, so I guess you should wait and see. Dont worry you wont have to wait for years like we have for this investigation to prove its full of political reprisals and weaponised federal institutions in a partisan enterprise to subvert the democratic process.

Its not that I dont like the concept of the FBI or the DOJ being the private jackboot army of a political party. Wait, I dont like that. Beyond that I think the rule of law you suddenly profess a care for is basically the argument against letting this inappropriate and fraudulently founded investigation to continue any further.

Future generations will ask if anyone was REALLY so gullible as to believe a second round of Russia boogeyman mass hysteria after the first cold war. I feel its important to state that not all of us were absurd fools.


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posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:05 PM
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originally posted by: whywhynot

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: burdman30ott6

It wouldn't be that simple.

What the law says about Donald Trump pardoning Michael Cohen


The short answer is that no one knows for sure. No sitting U.S. President has ever tried to pardon his own alleged co-conspirators, so this has never been tested in practice. If Donald Trump were to issue a pardon for Michael Cohen for his actions in the Trump-Russia scandal, the courts would have to rule whether such a pardon is Constitutional, and whether to uphold it or nullify it. From there, Special Counsel Robert Mueller would have to decide whether to charge Trump with obstruction of justice for having tried to use a pardon to prevent an alleged co-conspirator from testifying against him.

So there are three different possible outcomes. Different legal scholars have stated different views on which way they think the court might rule. The key here may be that for a judge to have signed off on a search warrant against him for the seizure of communications between Trump and his attorney, the judge must have believed there was evidence that Trump and Cohen conspired to commit a crime. This would directly paint Trump and Cohen as alleged co-conspirators, perhaps bolstering the legal argument that Trump can’t legally pardon Cohen.

One important note is that although there is no evidence that Michael Cohen has been charged with anything, Donald Trump can still preemptively pardon him. For instance, President Gerald Ford preemptively pardoned Richard Nixon at a time when there were no formal charges against Nixon. So Trump can try to pardon Cohen at any time. The only questions are whether he will try, and how it would play out legally. But the bottom line is this: if New York State brings parallel charges against Cohen, then there will be nothing Trump can do, as the president cannot pardon state level charges.


I would be impressed with the Palmer Report and Bill Palmer it he had a legal background or some reason to believe that he knows anything about what he is talking about. If it wasn’t one of the most shamefully wrong blogs on the planet I may even read it.

Really bad source.

You are free to prove me wrong, but I'm going to take your distrust of my source with a grain of salt until you do since I trust you less than that source.
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posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

You seem SOOOOO sure that there is corruption in the FBI but have no proof to prove it. I'm going to ignore your distractions now. There could be interesting case studies done in the cognitive dissonance needed to pretend like the FBI is corrupt with no evidence whatsoever while saying that an investigation that has produced indictments has no evidence supporting it. Have fun pretending like you know what's really going on.
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posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:09 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t




proof to prove it


There is decades worth of evidence. You are just being lazy now. Bye. I hope Mueller gets canned.

Then I hope corruption and sedition investigations into the players behind the Russia collusion investigations are started.

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posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:10 PM
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a reply to: Krazysh0t


So watching the organic growth of this thread more or less help me understand how the current events in 1860-1865 developed into violence, people choose to follow certain ideology based off of what their school of thought taught them or lack their of it. It is indeed a bit fascinating I was always a student of Jung’s theory to see it in organic form is fascinating yet pitiful as well.


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posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:11 PM
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Congress has their very own 'settlement slush fund' set aside for hushing people up that have been 'harassed', and no one bats an eye.

The circus needs to be shut down.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Yes, emotionally the right thing to do is fire him. However, once that occurs it is 'admission of guilt' to the media and every politician even if it is not. His hands are being tied and not allowed to do his job effectively.

It sucks...

Mueller is waiting on this...the 'minute' he would be fired there would be multiple suits put forth that would bog up and fill the news cycle for two more years.

I do not envy Trumps position at all....it is a no win right now.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:14 PM
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Can't sessions fire Rosenstein? He is the boss man.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:17 PM
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Until the horowitz report is released, there is no predicate for any action.

The problem here is that the public has lost faith in the FBI, or at least a large portion of the public has. "Official findings" is meaningless.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:19 PM
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I want to Sessions fired for "Alternative" reasons, not so much this investigation crap.

He's a damn dinosaur, living life like it's 1909. Time to move on, Jeffy Boo-Boo. Head back to whatever Roosevelt era, back asswards crypt you crawled out of and suck a tailpipe.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 03:30 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

because trump can't pardon crimes at the state level??
besides, if it is just about the stormy bit, it would be just a distraction to him, since he is looking at a much bigger, and more important puzzle trying to put the pieces of that together.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 04:06 PM
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Why on earth would Trump fire Mueller over the Cohen business, there's no reason to?


The issue isn't just what happened - federal investigators reportedly collecting documents and related information about Mr Cohen's tax records, business dealings and six-figure payment to secure the silence of Daniels, an adult film star who says she had an affair with Mr Trump. It's also who is doing the investigating.

According to media reports, the search was the result of information originally discovered by Mueller's investigation, but his office wasn't involved in the search. Instead, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein instructed the Mueller team to refer the matter to the US attorney for the Southern District of New York, which requested and executed the warrant.

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Rosenstein's just doing his job
A job that he was tapped for, by ... the man himself, Trump !
Brillant !!

Trump'll soon forget all that though
He's got some serious dog-tail waggin 'n' whislin' to do

He could still create a constitutional crisis on top of it
Just for fun, though, not 360° or 5 degrees of checkers

Out of sheer stupidity
Trump is capable of doubling down on the stupid...
Like starting sh!t in Syria
Like bombing (oops) à russian airbase



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 04:17 PM
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We are witnessing the 'insurance policy' and I can't really see a way out for Trump. Obviously he didn't collude with Russia (and I doubt Russia even interfered with the election to any large extent), however, I would bet my bottom dollar that Trump HAS broken laws in the past relating to finances and that is what Mueller will find.

There is little doubt the whole facade of Russia was simply an excuse to investigate Trump's entire life to find something - and I believe they probably will.

He can't really fire Mueller - the country is so far gone, he'd probably just continue anyway. But even if he didn't, Trump would be impeached if he did it.

So it's a lose / lose. Check mate, really.

The biggest problem is not really Trump getting removed, it's if they find some financial crimes and they blackmail him - forcing him to play the game they want him to play.



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