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originally posted by: Stevenjames15
a reply to: JBurns
Wouldn't bother me one bit. I have nothing to hide. Only those that do hide from it.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: shooterbrody
Thanks for the link, now I'm curious to know who the 'federal judge' happens to be.
That aside, I'd actually rather see him issue an immediate pardon to Cohen, slapping an "Attourney Client privilege with executive privilege added in for good measure" qualifier on the pardon. Mueller would be hogtied and, legally and logically speaking, there's not a damn thing anyone could do against Trump for the move except sit on it and like it.
Dude. YOU may not have evidence, but the fact that this raid occurred means that the Justice Department has strong evidence that Cohen committed a crime. So SOMETHING is up.
The short answer is that no one knows for sure. No sitting U.S. President has ever tried to pardon his own alleged co-conspirators, so this has never been tested in practice. If Donald Trump were to issue a pardon for Michael Cohen for his actions in the Trump-Russia scandal, the courts would have to rule whether such a pardon is Constitutional, and whether to uphold it or nullify it. From there, Special Counsel Robert Mueller would have to decide whether to charge Trump with obstruction of justice for having tried to use a pardon to prevent an alleged co-conspirator from testifying against him.
So there are three different possible outcomes. Different legal scholars have stated different views on which way they think the court might rule. The key here may be that for a judge to have signed off on a search warrant against him for the seizure of communications between Trump and his attorney, the judge must have believed there was evidence that Trump and Cohen conspired to commit a crime. This would directly paint Trump and Cohen as alleged co-conspirators, perhaps bolstering the legal argument that Trump can’t legally pardon Cohen.
One important note is that although there is no evidence that Michael Cohen has been charged with anything, Donald Trump can still preemptively pardon him. For instance, President Gerald Ford preemptively pardoned Richard Nixon at a time when there were no formal charges against Nixon. So Trump can try to pardon Cohen at any time. The only questions are whether he will try, and how it would play out legally. But the bottom line is this: if New York State brings parallel charges against Cohen, then there will be nothing Trump can do, as the president cannot pardon state level charges.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: shooterbrody
Thanks for the link, now I'm curious to know who the 'federal judge' happens to be.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: JBurns
He doesn't need to fire anyone but Sessions, really.
That aside, I'd actually rather see him issue an immediate pardon to Cohen, slapping an "Attourney Client privilege with executive privilege added in for good measure" qualifier on the pardon. Mueller would be hogtied and, legally and logically speaking, there's not a damn thing anyone could do against Trump for the move except sit on it and like it.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Media is reporting for payments to a playboy playmate and stormy.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
It's so funny how people such as yourself pretend like the available public evidence is somehow the same as the stuff that hasn't been released.
and the wind whispers... Benghazi. Benghaziiiii
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
Media is reporting for payments to a playboy playmate and stormy.
I don't trust what the media is reporting. They are merely going off of available evidence that is public knowledge, but the investigators probably have more evidence than we do so I'M waiting to hear from the horse's mouth myself when the indictment charges come down.
The latest moves involve prosecutors seeking evidence regarding payments Trump's team allegedly made to silence accusers.
First of all, many of these payments occurred LONG BEFORE he even decided to run for POTUS. Second, who cares? Paying accusers to keep quiet isn't a crime: it's common practice. The fact Mueller continually attempts to criminalize NON-CRIMINAL activity (trolling, insulting Killary Clinton, etc).
Time to fire Mueller. As one commentator said, POTUS has tens of millions of Citizens ready to uphold the Constitution, execute laws of the Union and put down insurrection. Period.
originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Keep this as part of his investigation.
Did I read wrong that he referred this to the NY FBI branch?