Time to fire Mueller, Rosenstein, Sessions...

Despite the media circus in recent days, Mueller has made very clear that the President is not (nor has been) a criminal target of the investigation. Fake-news rumors and Clinton financed dossiers combined with corrupt and biased FBI agents/DOJ employees to create the perfect storm of treason against our President.

At this point in time, many in congress (and a vast majority of Trump voters) have signaled their willingness to support Trump's firing of Mueller, Rosenstein and Jeff Sessions. Tallying the numbers in congress, there simply aren't enough treasonous Republicans and token Democrats to impeach let alone convict Trump. Short of a majority of congress deciding to give up their jobs (we'd primary them in 2018, and they know it all too well...ask Jeff Flake and whats his name? Cork? Something?) Trump is in the clear to go ahead and fire Mueller.

Regardless of optics, POTUS can fire any individual who is abusing or otherwise engaging in office misconduct. Much like Comey, POTUS has ample good cause to terminate Mueller, Rosenstein, Sessions, Ohr, Page, Strozok (and now fired/disgraced McCabe). The latest moves involve prosecutors seeking evidence regarding payments Trump's team allegedly made to silence accusers.

First of all, many of these payments occurred LONG BEFORE he even decided to run for POTUS. Second, who cares? Paying accusers to keep quiet isn't a crime: it's common practice. The fact Mueller continually attempts to criminalize NON-CRIMINAL activity (trolling, insulting Killary Clinton, etc).

And to those who believe our spineless and incompetent congress would make a move on POTUS, think again. Everyone wants to draw paralells between this and Nixon. Thing is, this isn't the country we had when Nixon was President. We have a bunch of hollow-shells occupying our public offices, with no real heart or convictions. You have establishment Republicans trying to salvage remnants of their debunked ideologies, while most Democrats are worshiping at the alter of Socialism and all too happy to use law enforcement/investigations as a tool against their political opponent. The charade must end. Immediately.

Naturally, this doesn't end the investigation. It ensures it can be properly carried out by the DOJ/FBI, just as the Democrat Obama FBI/DOJ investigated Democrat Hillary Clinton for espionage. There are no conflicts of interest in a GOP administration investigating Trump associates. Just as there are not conflicts of interest that arise from "meddling" in an investigation (remember the secret tarmac meeting?). Do it first

Time to fire Mueller. As one commentator said, POTUS has tens of millions of Citizens ready to uphold the Constitution, execute laws of the Union and put down insurrection. Period.

Some of us will support you all the way Mr. President. Don't underestimate the power of even a mere 3%...

a reply to: JBurns

No it is not time to fire anyone.
Trump can accomplish the same by simply not talking to mueller.
It is painfully obvious that mueller has nothing without trump incriminating himself.

Firing Mueller would play right into the hands of his opponents, both Republican and democrat. He has to play the game till the IG report comes out then (assuming its validates what many think) use that as the sledgehammer to clear the people behind it from DC.

That wouldn't make Trump look anymore suspicious or guilty...

Lol. Just let it run it's course. If he is indeed, innocent.

a reply to: shooterbrody

It is painfully obvious. But he also has nothing regardless of whether he fires the specific investigator or not. According to Democrats, it doesn't matter WHO does the investigation. Therefore, ANY federal agent (like the FBI or DOJ, who's job it is to investigate alleged crimes...) can conduct the investigation.

Firing Mueller, Rosenstein, Sessions does not end the investigation. It simply ensures that provably partisan hacks with a team of agents who gets their allegations from Rachel/CNN aren't in a position to persecute the President.

Furthermore, this raid against his attorney crosses a line. Paying people to shut their mouth isn't a crime. Therefore, by investigating the matter (without already having evidence of a crime) they've turned this into a fishing expedition. Mueller and his sycophants have made their intent to take the President down very clear.

And we should not permit them to abuse our justice system in such a way. Regardless, when Trump is cleared the damage will have already been done. Up to 2 years of his Presidency may be wasted (or minimized) by this petty, moronic leftist bull #.

From the beginning, they seized on a fake-news Clinton disinformation document (colluding with British/Russians to get it..) to harm POTUS. They've since done nothing but peddle outright lies and stated their worthless opinions as though they were actual fact vs. the load of s### that comes out of their mouths. No evidence has come to light, as Mueller confessed, indicating a crime has been committed by POTUS. None whatsoever.

Liars like Adam Schiff stated falsely he's seen enough evidence to prove "collusion" (which despite Mueller's incorrect interpretation of the law, is not an actual crime)

Personally I would like to see Trump fire them now, just to see the never Trump crowd go out and scream at the sky again, but I don't think it will affect the out come of them screaming at the sky, it will just push it back a little longer.

a reply to: Jefferton

Innocent people do mind being investigated.

Would you like a independent counsel examining your entire life? Now what if it started because of some fake-news rumor and a bunch of spoiled rats? What if it minimized your limited Presidency?

No. Fire their asses.

a reply to: JBurns

Wouldn't bother me one bit. I have nothing to hide. Only those that do hide from it.

a reply to: JBurns

AWWW that’s cute. Someone sounds like a “but Hillary” kinda person. Except you support trump. Does Mueller bother you to the point you think it’s time to fire him? Me thinks you watch too much FOX and read too much Breitbart. Behold Breitbart the king of spreading opinion pieces and passing them as fact AKA “Fake News”

a reply to: JBurns

Up to 2 years of his Presidency may be wasted (or minimized) by this petty, moronic leftist bull #.

The GOP majority house and senate has more to do with that than any investigation.

Ending this investigation NOW would allow mueller to slink off into obscurity when what we need is for mueller to have to admit trump did not commit any crimes.

The only way this goes bad for trump now is if he permits an interview by mueller. If trump uses his 5th protection and does not incriminate himself he wins.

originally posted by: Jefferton
That wouldn't make Trump look anymore suspicious or guilty...

Lol. Just let it run it's course. If he is indeed, innocent.

How about if it pertains to Russia... Let's keep it going.

So far from what I've read (still reading into it) this is about money paid to some bimbos. Oh and for the record, I'm sure he had relations with them.

But this was prior to his presidency. And this is out of the scope of investigation. Normally it wouldn't bother me to much, other than wasting money to get dirt on a billionaire banging playboy and porn stars (big surprise).... But the timing could influence a big spectacle in Syria to deflect.

This isn't faux outrage, or even outrage really on my part. Just saying how it looks.

JBurns, who doesn't understand the difference between a subject and a target and doesn't understand the delineation between crimes committed before the innauguration and crimes committed since the taking office, who heard Trump state in his own words he fired Comey over Russia, now gives Trump legal advice that it is time to declare the United States a constitution-free zone, RIP "Rule of Law" time of death 4-10-2018 ....

DO IT!

I AGREE!

PLEASSSEEEEE Mr. Trump, do it. You KNOW you are innocent! You KNOW IT! And they getting real close!!

Do it!!!!!!!!!

What a fitting end to the most corrupt president in modern history, and he'll be cheered by all the JBurns' of the world, who know absolutely nothing about the state of the evidence, all they know is that Trump is INNOCENT - after all, didn't Mueller just declare Trump innocent the other day when saying he was a "subject" but not a "target" while negotiating an interview (that Trump has yet to agree to, isn't that STRANGE, J? After all, if Mueller JUST TOLD him he's innocent - as you imply, why has Trump not agreed to the interview?

YES, it is time to fire all of them, Sessions, too - that weaselly traitor who lied during his confirmation hearings and then demonstrated SOME integrity by recusing himself, fire him!!! He's OBVIOUSLY anti-Trump! Anyone who doesn't agree right now that Trump is innocent of everything all the time is obviously a traitor and anti-Trump deep state swampy material.

Do it!!

Rosenstein is as good as gone. Sessions is working behind-the-scenes with President Trump. Mueller probably is too.

Some Oscar-worthy acting going on. Think of Rosenstein as the Villain, who is about to meet his doom...like McCabe.

a reply to: JBurns

According to the Code of Federal Regulations that governs the "conduct and accountability" of the special counsel:

§600.7

(d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.

I don't believe that Trump can fire Mueller, but he could pressure Sessions to do it, or replace Sessions with someone who will.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Jefferton
That wouldn't make Trump look anymore suspicious or guilty...

Lol. Just let it run it's course. If he is indeed, innocent.

How about if it pertains to Russia... Let's keep it going.

So far from what I've read (still reading into it) this is about money paid to some bimbos. Oh and for the record, I'm sure he had relations with them.

But this was prior to his presidency. And this is out of the scope of investigation. Normally it wouldn't bother me to much, other than wasting money to get dirt on a billionaire banging playboy and porn stars (big surprise).... But the timing could influence a big spectacle in Syria to deflect.

This isn't faux outrage, or even outrage really on my part. Just saying how it looks.

Outside the scope of the investigation is why Mueller referred it to the NYC office, or did you not hear?

It wasn't Mueller that sought the raid.

a reply to: Scrubdog

Are you five?

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: JBurns

According to the Code of Federal Regulations that governs the "conduct and accountability" of the special counsel:

§600.7

(d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.

I don't believe that Trump can fire Mueller, but he could pressure Sessions to do it, or replace Sessions with someone who will.

Sessions recused himself because of his dishonesty during his confirmation hearings, in fact he flat lied about his Russian contacts. That is why Sessons cannot fire Mueller, only Rosenstein can fire Mueller, and Rosenstein has said he will only do so "for cause."

a reply to: JBurns

Right now they are talking as if hwy had a leg to stand on

The investigation needs a half time to determine if it was even warranted.

FISA nonsense should be worked out and any advance on OIG report would be nice if it could clear some of this up now.I imagine that wouldnt be prudent.

Thats why just firing Mueller / Rosenstein and then dealing with it later when the FISA warrant is cleared up already makes more sense to me.

originally posted by: SlapMonkey
a reply to: Scrubdog

Are you five?

Yep.

a reply to: JBurns

Dude even Republican Congressmen are saying it would be monumentally stupid to fire any of those people and it would create a Constitutional crisis by doing so. The best course of action is for Trump to hunker down, shut up, and wait this out (provided he is truly innocent or at least not guilty that is). That's really his only option actually.