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Trump pledges forceful action in Syria showing he has been played.

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posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: purplemer

Ah, it hurts my heart seeing that. I'd actually watched a lot of the coverage for that presentation because I thought Powell was supposed to be a sensible guy. That sham completely ruined my perception of him and I still haven't forgiven him for it.

I wonder how many people remember Hans Blix & the UN weapons inspections? I recently read that Wolfowitz supposedly ordered the CIA to investigate & possibly undermine Blix before and during the weapons inspections in Iraq. I'm bringing that up because it would show a recent precedent of the US govt using covert means to undermine the credibility of Middle Eastern countries in regards to chemical weapons/WMD.




posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 09:17 PM
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Got a lot of access to classified intelligence do ya? How about folks on ATS focus on topics they have direct experience with...eating Cheetos and B*tching about their Ice Cream being too Cold! Leave world affairs to World Players, other wise you're about as useful as Stephen Hawking's Etch-A-Sketch!
a reply to: Reydelsol



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 09:53 PM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
However the fact it seems to be a chlorine attack does make it more likely that it was an attack by Assad forces or Russia


Or how about how anyone can make such an attack with everyday household cleaners?

Which brings up WHY? Is Assad & Putin broke, and out of ammo?

Did they NOT want the US out of Syria?

Make zero sense.



When I see people ask why it tells me you haven't been following syria at all. Lets look at Assad and the situation he's in.

First Assad doesn't have enough troops and is all ready stretched to the breaking point just trying to keep what he has. The ruling class in syria is is 11 percent of the population. Realistically 11 per ent can't control the country.

So his problem is He needs to show his iranian masters that he can win without them. And if his generals as he does his generals believe Assad is a puppet of iran…and would likely do a coup against him.So he has to show strength to his allies as well as to his military generals. Remember he's having a huge problem of getting Syrians to fight for him. That is why he needs shia iran, shia pakistani, shia afghani, shia iraqi, and shia hasbullah to fight for him!

Without these foreign troops it's game over for him the only way to keep them fighting is to make this about exterminating sunnI from the country. He will do what ever he needs to to keep those foreign fighters going. And to keep them going they want to see sunni dead.

Even worse for him if his foreign fighters think he's to weak to maintain power Iran will decide he has to go. This makes him dangerous as he will do what ever he needs to to take territory.
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posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
However the fact it seems to be a chlorine attack does make it more likely that it was an attack by Assad forces or Russia


Or how about how anyone can make such an attack with everyday household cleaners?

Which brings up WHY? Is Assad & Putin broke, and out of ammo?

Did they NOT want the US out of Syria?

Make zero sense.



When I see people ask why it tells me you haven't been following syria at all. Lets look at Assad and the situation he's in.

First Assad doesn't have enough troops and is all ready stretched to the breaking point just trying to keep what he has. The ruling class in syria is is 11 percent of the population. Realistically 11 per ent can't control the country.

So his problem is He needs to show his iranian masters that he can win without them. And if his generals as he does his generals believe Assad is a puppet of iran…and would likely do a coup against him.So he has to show strength to his allies as well as to his military generals. Remember he's having a huge problem of getting Syrians to fight for him. That is why he needs shia iran, shia pakistani, shia afghani, shia iraqi, and shia hasbullah to fight for him!

Without these foreign troops it's game over for him the only way to keep them fighting is to make this about exterminating sunnI from the country. He will do what ever he needs to to keep those foreign fighters going. And to keep them going they want to see sunni dead.

Even worse for him if his foreign fighters think he's to weak to maintain power Iran will decide he has to go. This makes him dangerous as he will do what ever he needs to to take territory.


It's not about Syria. Syria is just a colony of Russia. A war on Syria is a war on Russia.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: JHammon

Wrong this is about Iran not Russia. Russia by necessity has to back Iran. The Iranians are in control in syria not the Russians they are a bit player who is only there because they need a foreign base for the navy. Without syria russia could not even get in to the gulf. The only aircraft carrier they have to exert force is a broken down aircraft carrier. This carrier needs to have tow vessels because it breaks down a lot.

If you think this is about Russia you've been fooled. This is about Shia trying to take control over areas controlled by sunni.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 10:31 PM
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a reply to: dragonridr

Wont you be supriced when russia respond to the up comming Team US of A attack.

It has been issued warning to all civilian airtrafick in the middle east that they should make plans for alternative routs the next 72 hours. (NMOC).

The US have mobeliced a carrier group (Truman) and two missile destroyers.

The crazy americans are going to play....

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posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 10:38 PM
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a reply to: Reydelsol

Chemical Agents are Supplied by the International New World Order in Syria so they can Attain their Final Attack on the Free World , and Usher in a One World Fascist Government . Geopolitics , Goebbels One Oh One .



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 10:45 PM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit

The NWO have been up and running for a long time. What we see now is the NWO moping up.
The US have acted as the NWO sheriff for some years now.
How long it is going to last depeneds on how hard a Russia respond will be.



posted on Apr, 10 2018 @ 11:20 PM
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a reply to: spy66

Bottom Line , a Lot of People are gonna Meet their Maker on Both Sides of the Struggle Between Good and Evil , but in the Final Conflict , through their Own Actions of Righteous Causes , One is Doomed , the Other Saved .............

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posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 01:31 AM
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originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: JHammon
If you think this is about Russia you've been fooled. This is about Shia trying to take control over areas controlled by sunni.


Syria has a Sunni majority of around 70-75% of the population, but they've had an Alawite-Shiite leader (the Assads) for decades. The former leader Hafez Assad even set up the country so that Alawites and Sunnis shared power. If the Sunnis wanted Sunni control and for Bashar Assad to be gone, he'd be gone. Instead, they've been supporting him, voted overwhelmingly for him in the 2014 elections, and are fighting to make sure his administration stays in power.

If anything, it's those Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia & Qatar who are trying to take control over areas controlled or shared by Shiites. Or are we supposed to have already forgotten that Wahhabi-controlled Qatar was one of the main financiers for the mercenary "rebel groups" in Syria.? Or how the Saudis abducted Lebanon's Sunni Prime Minister Hariri and tried to get him to break his power-sharing agreement with the Shiites back in November?



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 04:50 AM
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a reply to: Reverbs

If things were as black and white in that regard as you claim, then Britain and America should never have fought the Nazis. The fact that they did and were right to do so (although any sensible person would state that this was the last time in history that a war actually needed fighting, making every decade of military action since a criminal waste of lives and resources), renders your argument somewhat empty.

Violence in and of itself is not inherently wrong. Violence for the wrong reasons is wrong. Violence is just like a gun, or a sword, or a knife. In and of themselves they are inoffensive, harmless, inanimate. Only when MISUSED do any one of these things pose a problem. Using violence against the defenceless for profit is wrong. Using violence to unseat a powerful and morally degenerate individual because their actions threaten the species of which we are all a part is not wrong.

Violence in pursuit of a just cause, does not beget violence. It stops it cold in its tracks, and empties its brain pan out.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 05:22 AM
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I don't care who is President, the USA has no credibility at all when it comes to intelligence services and claims of other countries breaking international law. The default position should be to not believe them. How many times will people fall for the same nonsense to justify killing millions for political reasons?



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 05:29 AM
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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: spy66

Bottom Line , a Lot of People are gonna Meet their Maker on Both Sides of the Struggle Between Good and Evil , but in the Final Conflict , through their Own Actions of Righteous Causes , One is Doomed , the Other Saved .............







There is no good and no evil that is causing this to happen , it's just greedy fat pigs that define lives and create sides for people to choose so the war continues.

If people woke up to this instead of choosing a side we would all live happier lives.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 06:52 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

well said !

yes the moral indignation at gas attacks are pathetic , compared to the fact that we have literally carpet bombed the middle east , Iraq , Afghanistan , Syria , Libya in the last decade , we have displaced millions and killed millions
yet a gas attack on Syria is worse !

and dont even get started on the lack of UN sanctions on Israel for their use of White phosphorous on civilians !
or invasion under humanitarian crisis!
we invade any nation under the pretense of war crimes or weapons of mass destruction, but completely ignore any other country that commits war crimes!

we bang on about all of these middle eastern countries committing atrocities yet the international community ignores the war crimes being committed by an Israeli government every year !


Everyone complaining about immigrants , refugees, yet probably are the same ones who support government , military intervention overseas!
we are the reason that has happened !

Id we hadnt bombed those nations back to the stone age , they wouldn't be pouring into Europe in their millions looking for some support from the governments that ruined their way of life!




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posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 06:59 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

yeh our side is humanity and creation, theirs is profit and destruction!



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 07:33 AM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

You'd think we wouldn't forget the time the government ignored our plea's to not goto war in Iraq and Afghanistan
before they condemned those innocents to death !

Funny how short term memories we have , and we will allow our governments to kill more again based on lies and deceit !



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: Reverbs
a reply to: Wardaddy454

what I said was logical.
it is logical to not shoot trump?
or have you been turned closer to a psychopath as well?

Trump got played and he's emotional just the same as brit guy above.. Im speaking logically
Stop blowing # up.


Negative Ghost Rider.



posted on Apr, 11 2018 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: iwanttobelieve70


1 valid reason above. Who can add some more? I'll start-Genie energy.



posted on Apr, 13 2018 @ 10:22 PM
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Russia and Syria will not use S-400 or other advanced weaponry under the auspices of a provocation. Only under a serious intention of strike against Syria ... Moreover the EU is not credible... as usual.



posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 12:59 PM
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It's now being reported by an independent Swiss lab that the chemical agents used to poison the ex Russian spy and his daughter in the UK is actually UK/US-Produced. If that is true then how can anyone believe that the chemical attack in Syria was carried out by Assad? These lies by the globalists in charge in the West are becoming so obvious now we'll never be able to believe our own govts. again.



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