The function of the Great Pyramid of Giza

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The only problem, meteoric iron is virtually impossible to forge.

Why?

( This should be good.)

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It is and very entertaining

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That guy is really talkative.




All meteorites are the same, of course. So these must be hoax videos.

We learn that it is perfectly possible to forge high-quality blades from meteoritic iron. However, not all meteorites are born equal. Even the small subset of iron-nickel meteorites can differ very much with respect to their constitution like the nickel concentration, the uniformity, the presence of large inclusions, and so on. Nickel concentrations around 8 % are common but 5 % or 20 % are also found. Less than about 5 % nickel is rare to non-existent, though.

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Yes but it took him six hours of carbonation, constant welding at super high temp, using a mechanical hammer...but doesn't this suggest that the ancients must have had quite a high tech, and a well developed know how. If Tuts dagger is meteoric iron, then they made it in the copper age.mmm Plus the fact he didn't finish it.

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but doesn't this suggest that the ancients must have had quite a high tech, and a well developed know how.

There is no doubt that the "ancients" were smart. And knew a lot about how fire works.

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Yes but it took him six hours of carbonation, constant welding at super high temp, using a mechanical hammer...but doesn't this suggest that the ancients must have had quite a high tech, and a well developed know how. If Tuts dagger is meteoric iron, then they made it in the copper age.mmm Plus the fact he didn't finish it.

Forging iron is no more difficult then forging copper. It just has to stay on the fire longer. They are not smelting iron they are forging it. They failed making iron from iron ore because of temperatures and not realizing you need to add carbon to the metal. Other wise you end up with a brittle mess useless for anything.

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This guy knows what he's doing and is layering meteorite in with steel to make a Damascus blade. With great difficulty, forging pure meteoric iron without a great deal of metallurgy skill is virtually impossible. Interesting stuff if King tuts dagger is pure meteorite. They would have had to melt it and add stuff then forge it.

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Did he use anything other than fire?

The "ancients" were just as intelligent as we are but fire and blacksmithing is not high tech.

What is the actual claim you are supporting, here?

Show me the exact claim you support, already....

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You really dont know the difference between forging and smelting do you? With meteoric iron you dont have to make the iron our solar system took care of that using pressure and heat. Thats why when they tested tuts blade they found nickel and cobalt something you dont find in iron made on earth.

And you know nothing about Damascus steele they made it through smelting. They melted pieces of iron and steel with charcoal in a reducing atmosphere . What he is doing in the video is forge welding iron and steele. Since Egyptians didnt know how to make Steele they couldnt use this method.

I've heard that the pyramid represents strength, longevity - which makes the Great Pyramid an ideal symbol of America, at the time, and long after...


I'd like to see a quote, to support this. If it exists.


What is the supposed purpose of a massive human eye perched above the pyramid?

It's supposed to represent God, who sees all?

When God is represented, it is either from above the entire Earth, or perhaps from overseeing the entire universe.

Not above a pyramid, that's just stupid!!


The imaginary 'eye' hovers above an actual object found on Earth. This object happens to be the greatest monument built on Earth, and nobody knows who built it, when it was built, and, most of all - HOW it was built.

What would the huge 'eye' above that pyramid POSSIBLY indicate, therefore? Just try and think about it, really hard!!

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If you think you can just grab a meteorite heat it up and forge it on an anvil, then its you who are simplistic. Every attempt at this is dogged with difficulties because the meteorite has other metallic elements in it to high or lower amounts that make its crystalline structure unmalleable at temperature . So whoever made Tuts blade knew a lot more about metal than this simplistic view. It would have to have some of these elements reduced to make it forgeable. Chucking it into a crucible with some terrestrial elements to do this sounds like smelting to me.

originally posted by: dragonridr
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Where you aware thr romans moved much heavier stones building temples. For example in Baalbek the romans moved stones weighing in a colossal 800 tonnes. Western wall in Jarusalem the largest stone is 517 tonnes. Great pyramid the stones were from 25 to 80 tonnes. So these are no where near the largest stones mankind has moved. So you claiming its impossible is silly.

The difference here is that those 80 ton granite stones needed to be lifted to considerable height.

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And of course you can prove that the megaliths in Baalbek do not predate Romans, right?

Yes we can any other questions?

No other questions, just the one I posted...I am still listening...

So you womt do any research and expect ne to teach you? The reason we know thr romans moved thr triathlons is simple. Under it there is a drum used to make the columns in the Temple of Jupiter. Because it is underneath the base stones, this drum must have been place there before the trilithon was put into place.

This means that either the romans built the base around the temple or they moved the stones placed a drum they cut underneath it and moved thr stones back. Now im going to say that would be stupid if the wall was all ready there. Meaning guess what we can prove thr Romans built the wall. You really shouldnt base your beliefs on ancient aliens or Zecharia Sitchin. Theres alot he didnt tell you in his book.

Another possibility would be if erosion of some sort had carried away part of the lower base, but the trilithons had remained in place due to being so large. So the Romans filled in the missing part of the base, just to shore it up.

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There is also a piece of technology the egyptians were aware of called a capstan. Basically rap a rope around a drum and use levers to spin the drum. We actually have images showing them moving obelisks this way. But seldom is that actually mentioned because everyone thinks Egyptians were to stupid to stack stones.

Capstans are just one of many possibilities. But the problem that remains is finding ropes strong enough to connect the stone to your capstan (or other mechanical advantage granting device.)

No matter how much mechanical advantage you have, something has to actually deliver the force you are generating.

The fact remains we cannot duplicate the Great Pyramid today, using similar tools available at the time.

A Japanese group attempted to build a small-scale pyramid, near the actual Great Pyramid, and they even used the same limestone, from the quarry.

The Japanese failed in their attempt. Same tools, same materials, all the manpower - yet they still failed, miserably.

Afaik, that's the only actual attempt to replicate the Great Pyramid.

They are still offering various theories on how it was built....just as they always have, for centuries.


If constructing the Great Pyramid isn't enough to prove their superior knowledge, I'd like to know what is.

As the giant 'eye' above the pyramid is obviously the perfect symbol to indicate a superior knowledge, too.


Think about how advanced we are today, with science, with engineering, with computers, with technology, with composite materials, structural designs, methods, and machinery. We should know how a pyramid was built, by primitive people, right?

They weren't primitive, obviously.

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It's 5 AM my headphones are on and I'm listening to the video. I love it!! Lots of stuff I'm thinking about while listening one is I could fall into quite a relaxing sleep listening to this. Very nice,thanks for posting.

Cro Magnons had an average of about 25% more brain capacity that we do now today. Our brains have shrunk due to living in cities and being able to depend on the minds of others to get most of our needs taken care of.

But imagine when civilization first started. What must it have been like for people who were each smart enough to make their own sets of tools?

Even using limited basic stone technologies, it's no wonder we can't match their ingenuity today. We have technology, but we depend too much on it. We can't think outside of the box anymore.

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Cro Magnons had an average of about 25% more brain capacity that we do now today. Our brains have shrunk due to living in cities and being able to depend on the minds of others to get most of our needs taken care of.

You are mistaken.
It was Neanderthals that had a slightly larger brain.
Cro Magnons aren't some distinct other type of human. They are Homo Sapiens. IOW us.

Harte

phys.org...

In fact, most of the shrinkage has occurred just over the last 20,000 years.

discovermagazine.com...


It could be a "quality vs quantity" thing, right? Or maybe we really are dumber now.

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That makes no sense so they moved stones weighing tons underneath the triathlon because they eroded. One we would see the erosion number two if the triathlon didn't have a base it would collapse. Next how would someone have built the wall on the first place without a base did these blocks magically float in the air??