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originally posted by: kborissov
AS LEAST, you need to adjust this statement for the presence of magnesium found in the limestone. Refer to this paper which is also reference in my article.
[12] M.W. Barsoum, A. Ganguly, and G. Hug. ”Microstructural Evidence of Reconstituted Limestone blocks in the Great Pyramids of Egypt, Journal of the American Ceramic Society”. Year: 2006.
I cannot find another paper which shows exact percentage of Magnesium in the limestone but let me know if interested I will look further.
Magnesium has some unbound electrons. Its conductance is generally poorer compared to copper but mind you, the materials which have high conductivity could not be used instead of limestone, period! as this would result in a very narrow skin depth for the electron flow at high frequency causing excessive heat and melting.
originally posted by: Byrd
originally posted by: kborissov
AS LEAST, you need to adjust this statement for the presence of magnesium found in the limestone. Refer to this paper which is also reference in my article.
[12] M.W. Barsoum, A. Ganguly, and G. Hug. ”Microstructural Evidence of Reconstituted Limestone blocks in the Great Pyramids of Egypt, Journal of the American Ceramic Society”. Year: 2006.
That is a dreadfully bad paper.
And no, I don't need to adjust.
Sure you do! high school kids can explain you why.
If you read the papers I linked, it did mention variable amounts of magnesium.
it is not even an article. Some sort of online general explanation which talks about conduction. As I explained more variables need to be accounted for. The paper referenced in my article is from the research institute analyzing the condition under some of those processes, you better use that kind of sources.
HOWEVER... to be limestone, the primary formula needs to be calcium carbonate. High-magnesium limestone (called dolomite) comes from the Suez area, not Giza.
it is silly of your to claim that limestone used on Giza projects does not contain Magnesium. when it is a common knowledge
I cannot find another paper which shows exact percentage of Magnesium in the limestone but let me know if interested I will look further.
No greater than 15% and it's in the form of magnesium oxide.
Any technology great enough to light up a pyramid like that implies modern (or better) electrical components.
Magnesium has some unbound electrons. Its conductance is generally poorer compared to copper but mind you, the materials which have high conductivity could not be used instead of limestone, period! as this would result in a very narrow skin depth for the electron flow at high frequency causing excessive heat and melting.
and by better you mean exactly what? More conductivity is not better, I explained it to you why but you again brushed that under the carpet.
We run high voltage through wires all the time, including enough power to light up an entire city or state. It requires a good insulator around the cables. We don't blow out our high power transmission lines or even melt them. So if the people who built the pyramids had that kind of technology, we'd find traces of the copper and the insulators all over the place.
copper is not going to work at high frequency (and that was the last time I said that), the technology used millennia would never looked like technology this days
...and... wait a sec. You are claiming you have a PhD in electrical engineering?? What sort of PhD doesn't know this stuff from the get-go? And look at the papers you accepted as "evidence" of your idea -- come on, man -- that wouldn't pass in any Masters' level paper. At the very least, a PhD would have read more than the title and the abstract of papers like the one on electrical properties of limestone and noted that it was for geoexploration and any electrical engineer would be aware of the amounts of electricity involved.
those are all cheap shots at me and my PhD, I do not need to comment on this.
Your research and PhD should have immediately led you to discount Dunn...
Why is that?
but you swallowed that one hook, line, and sinker. "Physics for Scientists and Engineers, Volume 2" - that's an introductory textbook. And Cadman - you didn't even notice the hydraulic problems with his model? Engineers howled with laughter over that one but you just accepted it without question?
and even more cheap shots...
Good gad, sir.
That's the first thing we learn in research. That and the difference between a hypothesis and a theory.
you may be surprised but that is the most intelegent thing you said in this very long post
AS LEAST, you need to adjust this statement for the presence of magnesium found in the limestone. Refer to this paper which is also reference in my article.
[12] M.W. Barsoum, A. Ganguly, and G. Hug. ”Microstructural Evidence of Reconstituted Limestone blocks in the Great Pyramids of Egypt, Journal of the American Ceramic Society”. Year: 2006.
That is a dreadfully bad paper.
And no, I don't need to adjust.
Sure you do! high school kids can explain you why.
it is not even an article. Some sort of online general explanation which talks about conduction.
it is silly of your to claim that limestone used on Giza projects does not contain Magnesium. when it is a common knowledge
Magnesium has some unbound electrons. Its conductance is generally poorer compared to copper but mind you, the materials which have high conductivity could not be used instead of limestone, period! as this would result in a very narrow skin depth for the electron flow at high frequency causing excessive heat and melting.
copper is not going to work at high frequency (and that was the last time I said that), the technology used millennia would never looked like technology this days
those are all cheap shots at me and my PhD, I do not need to comment on this.
Why is that? (discount Dunn's material)
originally posted by: Byrd
[12] M.W. Barsoum, A. Ganguly, and G. Hug. ”Microstructural Evidence of Reconstituted Limestone blocks in the Great Pyramids of Egypt, Journal of the American Ceramic Society”. Year: 2006.
That is a dreadfully bad paper.
Mind you. This paper is published in one of the best journals in the USA, which is a peer reviewed journal. The paper was extensively reviewed by people who dedicated their lives to material science and accepted. That tells me a lot about publication and not your minuscule opinion.
You didn't take geology, then. All limestone is not the same. It varies wildly in chemical composition and structure and properties. That's how we can tell where rocks came from. The high magnesium content limestone comes from much farther north... and you can google that to confirm.
it is silly of your to claim that limestone used on Giza projects does not contain Magnesium. when it is a common knowledge
You are denying obvious. You can have a look on the first figure in the reference [13] in my paper which shows impedance of the limestone decreases (even before you reach the water region) as a function of frequency, this is due to the metal presence in the Limestone. Yes, the limestone can be different, I never said opposite.
Well, since I looked it up to confirm, magnesium oxide (present in limestone) does NOT conduct electricity except in a molten state. quick reference page but there are other sources
Here you go again. Do me a favor, talk to Marzouk M. Bekhit, and Saad A Khalil who are from the national research center of Cairo and did research of conductivity of limestone at high frequency and published the paper "Electrical Properties of Moist Limestone Samples In The Frequency Range 1Hz-10^7 Hz From Abu Rawash Area” in Australian Journal of Basic and Applied Sciences which is another peer reviewed journal where prior to publications the articles are extensively reviewed by PhDs and other qualified people. Convince them that the research work they did on conductivity of Limestone at high frequency is garbage because you know better.
Why is that? (discount Dunn's material)
Well, gosh... the sheer implausibility of the design, for one. You're an electrical engineer. Why didn't you notice that?
Seriously. Like the problems with Cadman's hydraulic design. You claim to be a PhD electrical engineer. Yet you write an article and make a "thought experiment" discovery without doing basic research on the subject. You unquestioningly accept statements (like the "center of Earth's mass" location) and don't even check these to see how the measurement was obtained or whether it was fabricated. I assume you wrote this in all seriousness and for the purpose of answering a problem in Egyptology... a field you know nothing about and a field that you did not research. The result is a piece of fiction rather than a conference paper that would make an impact on the field. And yes, as your peer, I'm perfectly within my rights to be critical. PhD's are very very very hard to get (and expensive.) You should demonstrate the critical thinking and sharp research that is required to get the degree in the first place... instead of dancing around hard questions and waving articles without checking primary and secondary sources.
It is already a second long post from you where 80% of all text is in reference to my PhD. I do not talk about my PhD as much as you talk about my PhD. Please stop it. it is annoying.
The MgO cold cathode is a new source of electrons with possible applications in various types of electron tubes. It consists of a thin layer of porous magnesium oxide on a nickel base. A strong electric field that exists across the layer while in operation is believed to produce the electron emission from the surface. Evidence supports the theory that avalanche multiplication occurs in the layer. This cathode glows with a pale blue luminescence during operation. The velocity distribution of the emitted electrons shows a peak at 13 electron volts. The outer surface potential has been measured and found to be of the order of 150 volts with respect to the nickel base. The emission is not self-starting, and starting means are discussed. Noise, life, emission density, and temperature range of operation are discussed in so far as present knowledge permits. An experimental design of an amplifier tube employing this cathode is described and the characteristics of the tube are given.
originally posted by: kborissov
[12] M.W. Barsoum, A. Ganguly, and G. Hug. ”Microstructural Evidence of Reconstituted Limestone blocks in the Great Pyramids of Egypt, Journal of the American Ceramic Society”. Year: 2006.
That is a dreadfully bad paper.
Mind you. This paper is published in one of the best journals in the USA, which is a peer reviewed journal. The paper was extensively reviewed by people who dedicated their lives to material science and accepted. That tells me a lot about publication and not your minuscule opinion.
Here you go again. Do me a favor, talk to Marzouk M. Bekhit, and Saad A Khalil who are from the national research center of Cairo and did research of conductivity of limestone at high frequency and published the paper "Electrical Properties of Moist Limestone Samples In The Frequency Range 1Hz-10^7 Hz From Abu Rawash Area” in Australian Journal of Basic and Applied Sciences which is another peer reviewed journal where prior to publications the articles are extensively reviewed by PhDs and other qualified people. Convince them that the research work they did on conductivity of Limestone at high frequency is garbage because you know better.
Some limestone samples from Abu Rawash area west Cairo are studied in the present work in the
frequency range 1 – 10 Hz. Measurements are carried out under some controlled atmospheric relative 7
humidities from nearly dry sample (relative humidity 10%) up to 50%. The samples have thicknesses of
about 3mm. and a diameter about 5cm. The measurements were carried out using Hioki bridge for
measuring samples in the frequency range 100Hz up to 5MHz, and Q-meter bridge for measuring the samples
up to 10 MHz.
Fig.(2) shows variation of capacitance (C ) and conductance (G ) for nearly dry sample (R.H. x x 10%) in
x the frequency range 1-10 Hz. No dispersion is noticed in C in the frequency range of measurement. The 7
x sample conductance (G ) on the other hand shows a frequency dependence which can be approximated as
G á ù. x
With increasing the relative humidity up to 35% the sample capacitance increases from about 100 in the
dry state (fig.2) to about 10 at frequency 10 Hz. (Fig.3).
The diagnostics may be effective in mineral, water and oil prospecting, exploration of geothermal energy, well logging, monitoring of the stress stored within the earth's crust, earthquake prediction and assessment of the safety of toxic and radio active waste repositories.
It is already a second long post from you where 80% of all text is in reference to my PhD. I do not talk about my PhD as much as you talk about my PhD. Please stop it. it is annoying.
originally posted by: Cauliflower
a reply to: kborissov
A single Hertz is one cycle per second, about the frequency Eratosthenes would have observed as the sun lit the bottom of a deep well at noon. 10^7 Hertz is a shortwave frequency used by Ham radio operators in the 1950's. Did the ancients correctly foresee humanity still using their system 5000 years later?
The MgO cold cathode is a new source of electrons with possible applications in various types of electron tubes. It consists of a thin layer of porous magnesium oxide on a nickel base. A strong electric field that exists across the layer while in operation is believed to produce the electron emission from the surface. Evidence supports the theory that avalanche multiplication occurs in the layer. This cathode glows with a pale blue luminescence during operation. The velocity distribution of the emitted electrons shows a peak at 13 electron volts. The outer surface potential has been measured and found to be of the order of 150 volts with respect to the nickel base. The emission is not self-starting, and starting means are discussed. Noise, life, emission density, and temperature range of operation are discussed in so far as present knowledge permits. An experimental design of an amplifier tube employing this cathode is described and the characteristics of the tube are given.
originally posted by: turbonium1
The Great Pyramid is a symbol of evil, even today, which fits into my theory.
Why do they look at the Great Pyramid as a symbol of greatness, in secret, if the Pyramid was not created by/for something evil ?
Such a grand mystery
originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
a reply to: kborissov
Read your article, but although you describe the 'how', you haven't even approached the 'why'? aspect...
Why did the planet need the light of the pyramid? What function would the emitted light fulfill..?
originally posted by: Hooke
originally posted by: turbonium1
The Great Pyramid is a symbol of evil, even today, which fits into my theory.
Why do they look at the Great Pyramid as a symbol of greatness, in secret, if the Pyramid was not created by/for something evil ?
Such a grand mystery
No, no mystery.
The Great Pyramid was commissioned in the mid-3rd millennium by King Khufu as his tomb.
originally posted by: turbonium1
originally posted by: Hooke
originally posted by: turbonium1
The Great Pyramid is a symbol of evil, even today, which fits into my theory.
Why do they look at the Great Pyramid as a symbol of greatness, in secret, if the Pyramid was not created by/for something evil ?
Such a grand mystery
No, no mystery.
The Great Pyramid was commissioned in the mid-3rd millennium by King Khufu as his tomb.
A tomb inside the pyramid does not prove he built it. If someone had their coffin set in the basement of Sears Tower, that's not proof he built it, either.
originally posted by: Harte
originally posted by: turbonium1
originally posted by: Hooke
originally posted by: turbonium1
The Great Pyramid is a symbol of evil, even today, which fits into my theory.
Why do they look at the Great Pyramid as a symbol of greatness, in secret, if the Pyramid was not created by/for something evil ?
Such a grand mystery
No, no mystery.
The Great Pyramid was commissioned in the mid-3rd millennium by King Khufu as his tomb.
A tomb inside the pyramid does not prove he built it. If someone had their coffin set in the basement of Sears Tower, that's not proof he built it, either.
His name is found in several places that had been completely sealed since the construction of the pyramid.
Harte
originally posted by: turbonium1
originally posted by: Harte
originally posted by: turbonium1
originally posted by: Hooke
originally posted by: turbonium1
The Great Pyramid is a symbol of evil, even today, which fits into my theory.
Why do they look at the Great Pyramid as a symbol of greatness, in secret, if the Pyramid was not created by/for something evil ?
Such a grand mystery
No, no mystery.
The Great Pyramid was commissioned in the mid-3rd millennium by King Khufu as his tomb.
A tomb inside the pyramid does not prove he built it. If someone had their coffin set in the basement of Sears Tower, that's not proof he built it, either.
His name is found in several places that had been completely sealed since the construction of the pyramid.
Harte
There's no proof it was sealed "Since the construction of the pyramid".