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F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen

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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: burntheships

I am not the judge so chill.




posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: Phage

Listened to that live on Hannity's show. Sounds like Hannity just threw Cohen under the bus and made a case that none of their communications are confidential.


Cohen was never officially retained and Hannity never was billed / paid for anything. Casual conversations / questions on legal issues is what the discussed.


If he wasn't officially a client there is no attorney-client privilege. Being billed is irrelevant to the matter, a free consultation is still privileged. Hannity is making the claim that he was just asking general legal questions, not questions related to his legal situation.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

The warrant was in fact issued...



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Xcathdra

Really ? TV under the control of the president who tweets out teasers and trailers like a carnival barker? Then that TV show tears down every federal agency that has a hand in investigating trump. Becomes state TV blaring out the rhetoric to destroy those agencies.
I can't believe the blindness. But what ever....



Watch @seanhannity tonight at 9:00 P.M.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 3, 2018

Huge Investigative report, and what the corrupt media will NOT tell you about the Presidents accomplishments. Tick Tock @HillaryClinton and others. t.co...
— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) January 3, 2018



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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What??

He's Hannity's lawyer now? LOL

That guy will represent any wacko. Not saying Trump is a wacko...just Hannity.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: Phage

Listened to that live on Hannity's show. Sounds like Hannity just threw Cohen under the bus and made a case that none of their communications are confidential.


Cohen was never officially retained and Hannity never was billed / paid for anything. Casual conversations / questions on legal issues is what the discussed.


If he wasn't officially a client there is no attorney-client privilege. Being billed is irrelevant to the matter, a free consultation is still privileged. Hannity is making the claim that he was just asking general legal questions, not questions related to his legal situation.


Correct. Silly raised the prospect of pro bono and I said maybe Cohen thought he was doing pro obno for Hannity. Either way Hannity has nothing to do with the criminal investigation into Cohen with the exception of Cohen falsely claiming Hannity was a client. I can see a judge wanting a formal response from Hannity should Cohen face charges for lying to the court.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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originally posted by: amazing
What??

He's Hannity's lawyer now? LOL

That guy will represent any wacko. Not saying Trump is a wacko...just Hannity.


He is not Hannity's lawyer.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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i wonder if cohen was involved with this -

A new Playboy model, Barbara Moore has come forward about her relationship with Trump. He apparently was dating her while Marla Maples was pregnant with Tiffany.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

It just came out hannity was his one of his clients.. I don’t know if that means he did have to turn the client list over or not though..



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

I got a push notification on my phone saying he was a couple hours ago.. may be new news..



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Doesn't mean the material wasn't on the warrant only that they want to claim attorney client privilege on some of it. I'm pretty sure everything about the warrant was to the letter and air tight. This is the biggest case probably in history and you think Mueller is suddenly going to get careless?



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:58 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra
He is not Hannity's lawyer.


Cohen seems to think otherwise. Cohens lawyer seems to hold the same opinion.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: knoxie

LOL you mean a Yuge fabricated report from the number 1 trump lap dog who is happy to trade trumps credibility for his ratings..



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Xcathdra

I got a push notification on my phone saying he was a couple hours ago.. may be new news..


Hannity released an official statement saying he was not a client. He never officially retained Cohen as a lawyer and never received any bills or made any payments.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 05:10 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

Yeah . Trump does sound like a mob boss.
I knew plenty of his type being in the teamsters union at Kennedy airport.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 05:12 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Xcathdra

Doesn't mean the material wasn't on the warrant only that they want to claim attorney client privilege on some of it. I'm pretty sure everything about the warrant was to the letter and air tight. This is the biggest case probably in history and you think Mueller is suddenly going to get careless?


It does matter if an item is not on the warrant. You run into fruit of the poisonous tree issues.

Honestly it looks more like a defensive strategy in an effort to have all documents seized classified as privileged (attorney-client).

Mueller has nothing to do with this Cohen issue/. He referred it to the SDNY to deal with which is why it is highly doubtful its has any relation to Trump. If it did it would have remained in Muellers realm. Plus Mueller recently stated his probe will be wrapped up by next month since they will not be interviewing Trump.

Yes the bar is high to get a warrant for files from an attorney. This was just round 1 - an attempt to block the action with the privilege argument. The next argument, imo, will be the fact they seized items not on the warrants. While technically a 4th amendment violation there are some exceptions that exist that allows evidence to be seized without a warrant if there is a risk of the evidence being destroyed before a warrant is obtained and on scene.

However in those instances the evidence can only be seized but cannot be processed until the warrant is obtained.

Seizing everything, including items outside the warrant, and then sorting through to see what is relevant and what is not is highly unusual. Warrants are specific and restrictive for a reason.

Its like asking for a warrant to search a room in a house and turning around and searching the entire house. A warrant also restricts law enforcement to searching areas that can fit the items being sought. If your looking for a stand alone safe that is 5 feet high, 3 feet deep and 3 feet wide you cant search areas that could not contain that size of an item.
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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 05:13 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: amazing
What??

He's Hannity's lawyer now? LOL

That guy will represent any wacko. Not saying Trump is a wacko...just Hannity.


He is not Hannity's lawyer.


He performed legal work for Hannity.. Hannity is his Client and Cohen is a Lawyer....um for most folks that would make them their lawyer. Apparently Hannity has special rules that apply only to him? Do tell.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 05:14 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Xcathdra

I got a push notification on my phone saying he was a couple hours ago.. may be new news..


Hannity released an official statement saying he was not a client. He never officially retained Cohen as a lawyer and never received any bills or made any payments.


Maybe, but then what's going on with Cohen? Why did Cohen say Hannity was his client?



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Comeys opinion was that he was running everything like a mob boss too. Muellers investigation has been proceeding the same way they do to take down mafia figures.

Several rumors have come out over the years that Trump was involved with the mafia and that he structures his organizations like the mob.

It's likely an apt description.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

So what percentage of the records seized relates to that gentleman versus what percentage relates to trump? Out of the thousands no millions of records they seized?




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