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F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen

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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: Phage

Listened to that live on Hannity's show. Sounds like Hannity just threw Cohen under the bus and made a case that none of their communications are confidential.
I wonder about that too. Listening to his show now. No client attorney privilege.




posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
The WaPo as much as admits that this could still be a gotcha for Trump:


The Cohen case is being handled by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York, which got its referral from the investigation led by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III. But that doesn't mean Cohen couldn't cut a deal that involved cooperating with Mueller. Former top Justice Department official Harry Litman told me last week that there was “nothing preventing” such a development and that it was “a likely prospect to consider.”

Cohen, though, has expressed complete loyalty to Trump. “I’d rather jump out of a building than turn on Donald Trump,” he told a radio station last week.

Things, of course, have a way of changing as circumstances change. And jail time has a way of compelling people to do things they would rather not.


6 big questions in the Michael Cohen saga

Oh, they're also parroting the "Cohen in Prague," mumbo jumbo.



That is why Trumps lawyers got involved and are pushing to either review documents before they are seen by prosecutors or to appoint an independent special master to review and decide.

The thought process is they want info on Trump, like tax information and what not. The other thing is the prosecutors / FBI arent trusted to keep information they see, but is not allowed to be used by the prosecutors, will just leak the info.

In an effort to deceive the courts Mueller referred it to SDNY so it appears to be an unrelated criminal investigation. Apparently the warrant cited documents from 2011 and 2013.

That begs the question as to why the FBI seized everything, including items not on the warrant.
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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 03:56 PM
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originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: Phage

Listened to that live on Hannity's show. Sounds like Hannity just threw Cohen under the bus and made a case that none of their communications are confidential.


Cohen was never officially retained and Hannity never was billed / paid for anything. Casual conversations / questions on legal issues is what the discussed.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 03:59 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

I was going off the Canadian border patrol customs info.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

One might wonder why Cohen's lawyers consider Hannity to be one of three clients that Cohen had in past year.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Xcathdra

Who says that was cohens only crime...

All along ALOT of people have claimed trump was making millions doing money laundering..

So he likely met with Russians in Prague, but also , totally separately was involved in money laundering..

Muller is investigating Prague and NY is investigating the money laundering.


Not necessarily.

It can be outside the course of the Trump-Russia and crimes involved in the election line within the Rosenstein memo. If Cohen and Trump had business deals with Cohen that are bad, he could easily have referred it to the SDNY.

It most assuredly WILL involve Trump very soon, because there is no way that Cohen was an actual lawyer, bc actual lawyers have actual clients, and Hannity is just an actual stooge who has never said "no" to Trump, and therefore likely agreed to being named (or not), but was never a real client, Cohen is just desperate to claim a privilege that he has no right to claim.

If what Cohen did was Trump related it would have remained with Mueller instead of going to the SDNY.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: Scrubdog

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: Xcathdra

Who says that was cohens only crime...

All along ALOT of people have claimed trump was making millions doing money laundering..

So he likely met with Russians in Prague, but also , totally separately was involved in money laundering..

Muller is investigating Prague and NY is investigating the money laundering.

If what Cohen did was Trump related it would have remained with Mueller instead of going to the SDNY.


Not necessarily.

It can be outside the course of the Trump-Russia and crimes involved in the election line within the Rosenstein memo. If Cohen and Trump had business deals with Cohen that are bad, he could easily have referred it to the SDNY.

It most assuredly WILL involve Trump very soon, because there is no way that Cohen was an actual lawyer, bc actual lawyers have actual clients, and Hannity is just an actual stooge who has never said "no" to Trump, and therefore likely agreed to being named (or not), but was never a real client, Cohen is just desperate to claim a privilege that he has no right to claim.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: Scrubdog

The argument about client load is not a very good one. If the person is a lawyer, admitted to the bar of the state they are in, and dispenses legal advice and bills for it and gets paid, they are a lawyer and the communications are protected.

As for Rosenstein and his letter he already put Manafort on double secret probation by issuing a classified memo letting Mueller investigate crimes outside the letter. If he did that for Manafort why did he not do the same for Cohen?

That alone raises red flags.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: knoxie

This is going to be great. Lol.
Judge denies Cohen's request for a temporary restraining order.
The man may be required to actually know the law to get through this.
His strong arm tactics won't fly.

I can't believe trump had this man on pretty much permanent retainer.

Melt down coming. No place on the planet or employee of the administration is safe.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xcathdra

One might wonder why Cohen's lawyers consider Hannity to be one of three clients that Cohen had in past year.


One also has to wonder why its even relevant.
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I want to know what the warrants say and what they were based on.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:14 PM
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a reply to: Sillyolme

Trumps not the focus of this investigation. Cohen is and its for money crimes and fraud if I remember right. Trumps involved to ensure privileged documents unrelated to the warrant remain confidential.

The FBI seized everything, including a lot of files that were not listed on the warrant. Thats why this is an issue.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Xcathdra

One might wonder why Cohen's lawyers consider Hannity to be one of three clients that Cohen had in past year.

Indeed!

Either Cohen has lied to a court or Hannity is lying to everyone. One wonders what issue Hannity does not want the world to know about. Bear in mind that of the 3 people Cohen says he has represented in the last year one involved $130k to a woman to keep quiet about an affair, one involved paying $1.6m to a woman to cover up an affair which resulted in a child and the third....



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: trb71

This is corruption.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: trb71

This is corruption.


No its not.

Hannity was not a client. Cohen was never retained by Hannity and Hannity never received any bills. He is friends with Cohen and asked his opinion on some issues over the years.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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No telling what the raid might turn up, but the one thing I betcha it won't turn up is Russian collusion or that Cohen met with any Russians in Prague.


Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office is warning that “many” news articles on the Trump-Russia probe have been wrong.

The statement from a spokesperson did not single out particular stories. But the warning did come after media inquiries about a McClatchy News story on Friday that said Mr. Mueller has evidence that President Trump’s personal attorney, Michael Cohen, did in fact travel to Prague in 2016 as alleged by the Christopher Steele dossier.

“What I have been telling all reporters is that many stories about our investigation have been inaccurate,” the Mueller spokesperson said. “Be very cautious about any source that claims to have knowledge about our investigation and dig deep into what they claim before reporting on it. If another outlet reports something, don’t run with it unless you have your own sourcing to back it up.”
The statement was reported by the Daily Caller and confirmed by The Washington Times.

Mueller’s warning: ‘Many’ news stories on Trump-Russia probe are wrong


Nor is it likely to turn up any honest leftists who actually care about constitutional integrity. I do wonder what the next OIG report will turn up.


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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: trb71

This is corruption.


No its not.

Hannity was not a client. Cohen was never retained by Hannity and Hannity never received any bills. He is friends with Cohen and asked his opinion on some issues over the years.

So you're saying that Cohen has knowingly lied to a judge?



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra


One also has to wonder why its even relevant.
Cohen's attorneys made it relevant. It has to do with their motion about attorney/client privilege and the "millions" of documents involved. The judge said,"OK, I'll consider it. Who are his clients?"


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posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: PheonixReborn


Either Cohen has lied to a court or Hannity is lying to everyone.


Witch Hunt.



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

How do you know they seized records that weren't on the warrant?



posted on Apr, 16 2018 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: trb71

This is corruption.


Innocent until proven guilty.

What has happened to the leftists and due process?



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