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INCREDIBLE - With 90 Percent of Media Against President Trump - He Still Polls Higher Than Obama.

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posted on Apr, 5 2018 @ 08:29 PM
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Rasmussen Reports




These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation.



With that posted. It is a conservative biased polling site, yet they could only find "51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump"...LMAO

That means that even among his base, they could only find 51% of conservatives (less if dems are included in poll) who approve of him while 49% don't.

So the Op was attempting to prove this idiot's approval rating is great but managed to show that even amongst his base, he is not that popular. LMAO




posted on Apr, 5 2018 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: donnydeevil


It's a shame you never cared enough to read the underlying data of polls. You're telling everyone more about yourself than you probably want to. Or maybe you don't care. Whatever makes you happy.



posted on Apr, 5 2018 @ 11:52 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: donnydeevil


It's a shame you never cared enough to read the underlying data of polls. You're telling everyone more about yourself than you probably want to. Or maybe you don't care. Whatever makes you happy.


Why don't YOU tell us about the underlying data of the reports, because I find it such a shame that you would presume that it supports you while insulting another person. Are you denying Rassmussen has a conservative bent? Is it THE accurate one and all the rest are "fake"?

I find it best to cast a wide net, get all of them, average them together, to get at least a more solid sense, and 538 has a consolidation of ALL the polls, which as of today demonstrates that 53% Disapprove of Trump, and 40% approval. projects.fivethirtyeight.com...

Of course, that can be written off as "biased" and the ONLY true poll is Rassmussen, and that's fine- whatever.

I am not the least bit surprised that Trump is able to retain his 40% approval ratings (or whatever they are) even with "90% of the media against him (according to the OP, which isn't true, but for arguments sake). That's bc Trump's core supporters, somewhere between 35-39% of the electorate won't be moved no matter what, period. As Trump famously said; He could go on 5th Ave and shoot someone and he'd still be supported. This is just that. All the revelations, all the true stuff coming out, it is ALL meaningless to the Trump supporters.

-The FBI has serious evidence against him regarding Russia? Well, trash the FBI, not Trump.
-Bannon, leader of the Alt-Right figures out Trump's a moron doing his own thing and likely owned by Russia, bash Bannon suddenly.
- CELEBRATE that Mueller states Trump is a subject of a federal investigation (a very serious thing) for obstruction while in office
- Porn stars and other women come out with obvious evidence of obvious pay-offs, a very disturbing trend, paying off people with bad information on you. No problem, blame the porn star

Nothing touches him with the true believers. He said you are allowed to have no time for PC, he said he'd "drain the swamp" and filled it with crooked billionaires, the smart ones called him a fking moron. No problem, it's all other people's issue.

So, why would we expect anything different? If evidence came out tomorrow that the FBI had direct evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, most of the Alt-Right would set about trashing the FBI. Of course his "poll numbers" are staying the same! As noted on Saturday Night Live - "Nothing matters anymore, literally nothing matters."

He can't be that popular. Still won't throw out a first pitch, still won't go to London, still won't go to the regular "president things" like the Kennedy Center honors or the White House Correspondent's Dinner. He won't go anywhere where the crowd hasn't been cleared as 100% pure Trump supporter, prefers his "campaign rallies." Hasn't had a real news conference in over a year, new record.

Nope, that that popular, either that or a terrified precious snowflake. Or both.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 12:51 AM
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originally posted by: Scrubdog

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: donnydeevil


It's a shame you never cared enough to read the underlying data of polls. You're telling everyone more about yourself than you probably want to. Or maybe you don't care. Whatever makes you happy.


Why don't YOU tell us about the underlying data of the reports, because I find it such a shame that you would presume that it supports you while insulting another person. Are you denying Rassmussen has a conservative bent? Is it THE accurate one and all the rest are "fake"?

I find it best to cast a wide net, get all of them, average them together, to get at least a more solid sense, and 538 has a consolidation of ALL the polls, which as of today demonstrates that 53% Disapprove of Trump, and 40% approval. projects.fivethirtyeight.com...

Of course, that can be written off as "biased" and the ONLY true poll is Rassmussen, and that's fine- whatever.

I am not the least bit surprised that Trump is able to retain his 40% approval ratings (or whatever they are) even with "90% of the media against him (according to the OP, which isn't true, but for arguments sake). That's bc Trump's core supporters, somewhere between 35-39% of the electorate won't be moved no matter what, period. As Trump famously said; He could go on 5th Ave and shoot someone and he'd still be supported. This is just that. All the revelations, all the true stuff coming out, it is ALL meaningless to the Trump supporters.

-The FBI has serious evidence against him regarding Russia? Well, trash the FBI, not Trump.
-Bannon, leader of the Alt-Right figures out Trump's a moron doing his own thing and likely owned by Russia, bash Bannon suddenly.
- CELEBRATE that Mueller states Trump is a subject of a federal investigation (a very serious thing) for obstruction while in office
- Porn stars and other women come out with obvious evidence of obvious pay-offs, a very disturbing trend, paying off people with bad information on you. No problem, blame the porn star

Nothing touches him with the true believers. He said you are allowed to have no time for PC, he said he'd "drain the swamp" and filled it with crooked billionaires, the smart ones called him a fking moron. No problem, it's all other people's issue.

So, why would we expect anything different? If evidence came out tomorrow that the FBI had direct evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, most of the Alt-Right would set about trashing the FBI. Of course his "poll numbers" are staying the same! As noted on Saturday Night Live - "Nothing matters anymore, literally nothing matters."

He can't be that popular. Still won't throw out a first pitch, still won't go to London, still won't go to the regular "president things" like the Kennedy Center honors or the White House Correspondent's Dinner. He won't go anywhere where the crowd hasn't been cleared as 100% pure Trump supporter, prefers his "campaign rallies." Hasn't had a real news conference in over a year, new record.

Nope, that that popular, either that or a terrified precious snowflake. Or both.


Best post on here in a while.

This thread represents the kind of propaganda which keeps the cult embedded, much like scientology.

You know at the end of the wizard of oz, with the man behind the curtain? Same thing.

I also find it hilarious that his followers will commonly refer to anyone they disagree with as "crying snowflakes", yet donnie is literally the whiniest, most hypersensitive little snowflake I've ever seen. Just constantly crying and whining on Twitter, getting defensive and attacking anyone and everyone, calling them childish names etc.

And then the cult call that "strength" and "alpha"? Lol. It's literally the opposite of strength. And if having tantrums every time the media expresses their right to free speech makes him "alpha" then it simply serves to emphasise how insecure people who call themselves "alpha" are.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 02:22 AM
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originally posted by: Scrubdog

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: donnydeevil


It's a shame you never cared enough to read the underlying data of polls. You're telling everyone more about yourself than you probably want to. Or maybe you don't care. Whatever makes you happy.


Why don't YOU tell us about the underlying data of the reports, because I find it such a shame that you would presume that it supports you while insulting another person. Are you denying Rassmussen has a conservative bent? Is it THE accurate one and all the rest are "fake"?

I find it best to cast a wide net, get all of them, average them together, to get at least a more solid sense, and 538 has a consolidation of ALL the polls, which as of today demonstrates that 53% Disapprove of Trump, and 40% approval. projects.fivethirtyeight.com...

Of course, that can be written off as "biased" and the ONLY true poll is Rassmussen, and that's fine- whatever.

I am not the least bit surprised that Trump is able to retain his 40% approval ratings (or whatever they are) even with "90% of the media against him (according to the OP, which isn't true, but for arguments sake). That's bc Trump's core supporters, somewhere between 35-39% of the electorate won't be moved no matter what, period. As Trump famously said; He could go on 5th Ave and shoot someone and he'd still be supported. This is just that. All the revelations, all the true stuff coming out, it is ALL meaningless to the Trump supporters.

-The FBI has serious evidence against him regarding Russia? Well, trash the FBI, not Trump.
-Bannon, leader of the Alt-Right figures out Trump's a moron doing his own thing and likely owned by Russia, bash Bannon suddenly.
- CELEBRATE that Mueller states Trump is a subject of a federal investigation (a very serious thing) for obstruction while in office
- Porn stars and other women come out with obvious evidence of obvious pay-offs, a very disturbing trend, paying off people with bad information on you. No problem, blame the porn star

Nothing touches him with the true believers. He said you are allowed to have no time for PC, he said he'd "drain the swamp" and filled it with crooked billionaires, the smart ones called him a fking moron. No problem, it's all other people's issue.

So, why would we expect anything different? If evidence came out tomorrow that the FBI had direct evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, most of the Alt-Right would set about trashing the FBI. Of course his "poll numbers" are staying the same! As noted on Saturday Night Live - "Nothing matters anymore, literally nothing matters."

He can't be that popular. Still won't throw out a first pitch, still won't go to London, still won't go to the regular "president things" like the Kennedy Center honors or the White House Correspondent's Dinner. He won't go anywhere where the crowd hasn't been cleared as 100% pure Trump supporter, prefers his "campaign rallies." Hasn't had a real news conference in over a year,s new record.

Nope, that that popular, either that or a terrified precious snowflake. Or both.




Who believes the FBI about anything now?!

Who gives a rats where people think he "has" to go or do?

The "smart ones" were not chosen.

What "true stuff" is coming out?

All I see is more douchebaggery from the dems the more info that comes out.

Let him complete his 2 terms, like you want us to let mueller complete his witch hunt.

Still trying to control what we should think?

Colluded with russia to do what, win the election? lol.

I guess you missed the Gazprom stock offers on Facebook to vote for Trump. Bummer for you.











posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 02:24 AM
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originally posted by: fencesitter85

originally posted by: Scrubdog

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: donnydeevil


It's a shame you never cared enough to read the underlying data of polls. You're telling everyone more about yourself than you probably want to. Or maybe you don't care. Whatever makes you happy.


Why don't YOU tell us about the underlying data of the reports, because I find it such a shame that you would presume that it supports you while insulting another person. Are you denying Rassmussen has a conservative bent? Is it THE accurate one and all the rest are "fake"?

I find it best to cast a wide net, get all of them, average them together, to get at least a more solid sense, and 538 has a consolidation of ALL the polls, which as of today demonstrates that 53% Disapprove of Trump, and 40% approval. projects.fivethirtyeight.com...

Of course, that can be written off as "biased" and the ONLY true poll is Rassmussen, and that's fine- whatever.

I am not the least bit surprised that Trump is able to retain his 40% approval ratings (or whatever they are) even with "90% of the media against him (according to the OP, which isn't true, but for arguments sake). That's bc Trump's core supporters, somewhere between 35-39% of the electorate won't be moved no matter what, period. As Trump famously said; He could go on 5th Ave and shoot someone and he'd still be supported. This is just that. All the revelations, all the true stuff coming out, it is ALL meaningless to the Trump supporters.

-The FBI has serious evidence against him regarding Russia? Well, trash the FBI, not Trump.
-Bannon, leader of the Alt-Right figures out Trump's a moron doing his own thing and likely owned by Russia, bash Bannon suddenly.
- CELEBRATE that Mueller states Trump is a subject of a federal investigation (a very serious thing) for obstruction while in office
- Porn stars and other women come out with obvious evidence of obvious pay-offs, a very disturbing trend, paying off people with bad information on you. No problem, blame the porn star

Nothing touches him with the true believers. He said you are allowed to have no time for PC, he said he'd "drain the swamp" and filled it with crooked billionaires, the smart ones called him a fking moron. No problem, it's all other people's issue.

So, why would we expect anything different? If evidence came out tomorrow that the FBI had direct evidence that Trump colluded with Russia, most of the Alt-Right would set about trashing the FBI. Of course his "poll numbers" are staying the same! As noted on Saturday Night Live - "Nothing matters anymore, literally nothing matters."

He can't be that popular. Still won't throw out a first pitch, still won't go to London, still won't go to the regular "president things" like the Kennedy Center honors or the White House Correspondent's Dinner. He won't go anywhere where the crowd hasn't been cleared as 100% pure Trump supporter, prefers his "campaign rallies." Hasn't had a real news conference in over a year, new record.

Nope, that that popular, either that or a terrified precious snowflake. Or both.


Best post on here in a while.

This thread represents the kind of propaganda which keeps the cult embedded, much like scientology.

You know at the end of the wizard of oz, with the man behind the curtain? Same thing.

I also find it hilarious that his followers will commonly refer to anyone they disagree with as "crying snowflakes", yet donnie is literally the whiniest, most hypersensitive little snowflake I've ever seen. Just constantly crying and whining on Twitter, getting defensive and attacking anyone and everyone, calling them childish names etc.

And then the cult call that "strength" and "alpha"? Lol. It's literally the opposite of strength. And if having tantrums every time the media expresses their right to free speech makes him "alpha" then it simply serves to emphasise how insecure people who call themselves "alpha" are.



The only one whining and crying for the last 18 months is Hillary and the left.

And you guys wanted her for POTUS?!


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posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 05:16 AM
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originally posted by: 1337Kph

originally posted by: introvert
Yet you still tried to use an argument that the other member did not make or imply.

Using it as an argument would be me saying "You're probably one of those guys that..." or anything in that direction.
Getting pretty pointless there.


I see you have met the loony left on ATS and are very good at making them look foolish. The whole thing boils down to Trump spanked them state by state and only the brainwashed SJW states voted for more corruption with no care in the world that corruption was bad.

Off topic, your name 1337 Kph is 102 Kilometers Per Hour faster than the speed of sound! Making you a Mach 1 Poster? Too fast for them.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 05:51 AM
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Here is the danger of polls...

Today the Rasmussen approval rating is 47% and 2pts below Obama at the same point in their presidency. What now? Is the poll still nonsense and Obama was not really more popular at this stage?



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 06:02 AM
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originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: BotheLumberJack

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: BotheLumberJack




Raw Data provided by whom?


Well if you bothered to check out the link I have provided you would see....

YouGov, Gallop, IPSOS, Rassmussen Reports and whole load of others....

Its amazing how you chose to cherry pick your facts though.

If you look through a few pages worth of polling data aggregated by FiveThirtyEight you struggle to find any showing a positive number for Trump. Yet you somehow manage to cherry pick the one poll that gives him a merger 51% approval rating. Hell even the last FoxNews poll only put him at 45%!

Sorry but it is a fact. When you look at the polling numbers Trump is the least popular president of modern times.



I don't trust everything I read like you do, my bad.


ohhh but you will believe that one poll that shows Trump has positive polling numbers.

And ignore all those other sources that say otherwise.

Sorry, I am able to critically analyse sources, my bad.

When you actually have a decent counter argument to my points about his god awful polling numbers feel free to try again....


I'm just going to jump in here as an avid Trump supporter, from Scotland (if that even matters) and say I don't trust this poll, I don't trust previous polls. In fact all polls over the last few decades have probably been skewed to some extent. It's all BS. It's a number you're shown and expected to believe. I'll make my own mind up about the guy, much like the people who voted him in. The proof is in the pudding. It's about results. Follow the results. We'll see how he progresses over this term.

Polls... pah!
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posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 06:06 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
My approval rating for Trump is 43%

I like some of what he's doing.

But some of the things he's said and done are starting to seriously piss me off.


He is doing about 85% approval rating for me. If he gets any more wins on that bucket list he started, there will be a huge landslide for him like Reagan received.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 06:17 AM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
Here is the danger of polls...

Today the Rasmussen approval rating is 47% and 2pts below Obama at the same point in their presidency. What now? Is the poll still nonsense and Obama was not really more popular at this stage?


Polls are good fodder for discussion in a newsroom but are close to meaningless when they are intentionally skewed while professing accuracy. The cabal doesn't care if it is proven later to not be true. It pushes the agenda further for their team.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 08:12 AM
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I can only assume the OP truncated the thread title because he couldn't fully fit in: "INCREDIBLE - With 90 Percent of Media Against President Trump - He Still Polls Higher Than Obama, based on a singular poll I found that actually favored him!"

Take into account all polls, and nope.. still terrible. But I guess you take a win wherever you can dredge it up. Trump's followers are becoming like him, only accepting that which agrees with him, and dismissing everything else as "fake, wrong, biased, extreme-left, etc.."



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 08:25 AM
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It's really simple. The news media is owned by wealthy individuals who say and print what they like to control and manipulate the population to their own agenda.

I actually took a class in 1987 at Ohio State University for a BA/BFA in photography and cinema. These individuals try to control history and human behavioral actions to influence their other businesses. Its all about money, not reporting factual truths or reporting actual reality. The average person is dumbed down and duped daily.

The working hard person loves Trump! He is spanking all those people who take advantage. The media owners hate him. We need a society reset.
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posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 08:55 AM
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originally posted by: fleabit
Take into account all polls, and nope.. still terrible. But I guess you take a win wherever you can dredge it up. Trump's followers are becoming like him, only accepting that which agrees with him, and dismissing everything else as "fake, wrong, biased, extreme-left, etc.."


Taking into account all polls, Trump is neck and neck with Obama at the same point in his last term -- certainly within the margin of error -- PLUS, Obama's approval ratings were on a steep declining trend, whereas Trump's are pretty steady.

Obama:


Trump:



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 09:33 AM
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Never argue with a liberal about polls! With any luck, by the time 2020 rolls around Trump's odds of winning re-election will poll at about 2%. We need more viral clips of Maddow and the rest of the MSM losing their minds - that stuff never gets old.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: odzeandennz

Polls are only as useful as they are intended to be. A well done poll can be very accurate. Most of the time they are designed to give the desired answer.
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posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 09:44 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Rasmussen does not share their polling methods publicly for a reason.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 09:45 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

I can understand why Cult45 would rally around any indication, no matter how weak, that they aren’t alone in their adoration of their antichrist god-emperor


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posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 09:57 AM
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originally posted by: donnydeevil
Rasmussen Reports




These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation.



With that posted. It is a conservative biased polling site, yet they could only find "51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump"...LMAO



By my math, Trump has been President for 440 days.
So a right leaning pollster found ONE DAY where the margin of error blew in the right direction to be able to claim that Trumps approval rating blipped past Pres. Obama's (according to Rass Obama Polls which were biased against) at the same point in their presidency?
Once in 440 days?
And even according to Rassmussen it looks like an anomaly
www.rasmussenreports.com...

Embarrassing if this is cause for celebration by the right wing.

Damn, don't make me feel sorry for Trumpites!
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posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 10:00 AM
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i hope his approval ratings are better than a pedophile that was bent on destroying America.

I still think Obama/Hillary/Bushes will be publicly hung for being a traitors.







 
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