OCCULT The conjuring of Angels .

a reply to: TheJesuit

I do not think that it is worthwhile exploring the practice. Dee lived in a different age when human looked for something stronger than themselves, something that had power and all the answers.

We live in a different age. Once people learn to step out of the mental whirlpool (cause by technology and social media) they will recognise their power and start to find the answers to all the questions and they will take control of their lives once again ; shaping their environment at will.

To use a metaphor , we operate on 4 cylinders. The angel and demon operates on 1. They specialise in one thing which is their area of activity.

Magic need no longer be Occult. If you were to reveal all the secrets , it would be of no use to anybody. Without the ability to focus and build energy , only failure would ensue.

originally posted by: crowdedskies
a reply to: TheJesuit


To use a metaphor , we operate on 4 cylinders. The angel and demon operates on 1. They specialise in one thing which is their area of activity.

You are correct in that Angels are specialists in their area of speciality.Whether that be in their theological commitments ,or in the context of their work within the Sciences. It would a fair assesment to say that Angels are some of the best minds in creation who work on some very complex Universal problems.
You are mistaken in assuming that they only work on 1 Cylinder. Angels are very hard workers who really give everything they got into something that they all unquestionably believe in!

originally posted by: Rapha

originally posted by: DpatC
That sounds interesting - would you care to elaborate more on your experience? Did the watcher (Angel) give you a name. As a said it's a very specialised team that work on transitions from one type of existance to another.
How did you find the overall experience?

Oct 2005, i was in hospital for a brain operation. When the experience started, i naturally assumed that i had died in the operation room and gone to hell.

The watchers' name is Shymhz (shem + ya'ah + aza).

Shymhz told me that the vision was not Revelation 16:10 in the presence of demons, but very similar to the angel prison Tartarus.

The overall experience was horrifying.

The odd thing is, the vision has turned out to be a summary of my life since July 1996. Thankfully i am at the end of the vision now.

i guess some transitions can be nightmares and need visions to get a person through them.

Firstly let me apolagise for what you experienced. If must of been Horrifying espicially if you were unaware of what was happening to you.I have been asked to ask you if you ever did anything that would attract the attention of a "Fallen Angel"? Ever dabble in the occult, try to sell your soul, wished anyone hurt or anything like that. The reason im asking is that those lot will leave you alone unless you attract their attention or have something to offer them, like a special ability or skill. I know this might sound wierd but they are actually a decent lot. They don't actually mean you harm. I know this might sound odd but they are actually out to help the Soul/Light of the individual on its journey home

To understand who and what this is all about and the politics and beliefs of Angels Like Shymhz, a good comparison would be the History of Ireland from 1169 to the signing of the Good Friday Agreement on the 10th of April 1998. Something very similiar is happening in the heavens at the moment - Fallen and unfallen Angels negotiating the Angelic version of the Good Friday Agreement. If we can get this to work I suspect you will see a very similiar situation to what happened with the Maze prison and the release of all Political prisoners in 2000. Hopefully this will can close places like "Tartarus" for good.

You have no idea how hard and long it's taken to get "Lucifer and Michael" to sit together at negotiating table - Hopefully this time

Again I apolagise for what you experienced, but can I ask have you bettered by your experience?

a reply to: TheJesuit

No not demon's but beneficial Angels

Isn't it a heavenly or biblical law that communication and interaction is forbidden?

Isn't this why demons are said to whisper in our ears and why one can contact negative entities, because they rebel against gods law?

Angels are said to be the good guys and demons the bad guys,

The good guys follow the law and the bad guys disobey, so contact with angelic beings via conjuring will only attract negative entities.

Or so its supposed to be

john 1st epistle, iv believe not every spirit but try the spirits.

Crowley, test everything.