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-@TH3WH17ERABB17-Q- Questions. White House Insider's postings- PART -V-

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posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:01 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

The defelction doesn't necessarily have to be about sexual peccadillos. I contend that every president since Reagan has used limited military incursions to deflect form some sort of misdeeds.

So, knowing that, and seing the crappy canned address to the nation like I did last night, I start to get suspicious. Especially when the stated objective is to spank a foreign govenment without allowing an investigation to be completed.

If POTUS had allowed the outside investigaiton to happen, waited a month for the story to die out, then launched a strike a month from now out of the blue, it would weigh differently in my mind. At least he would've been consistent with his own words.

I see a lot of speculation flying around that it was a coordinated effort agains bad actors from our own government, blah, bah, blah. Cogantive dissonance and confirmation bias run amuck.

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posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:09 AM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

I agree it's not the US's business to get involved with regime change in these countries IF they aren't going to have a plan for after.

That has been the problem all along, well one of the problems.

Exactly you are correct why Iran and so many other countries are in the mess they are.

If the idea that uncontrolled chaos in those countries allowed " the cabal" or whatever you want to call them to profit off of those misfortunes, and now Trump has "cleaned" the cia etc. and intends to now do good. Well that will be a change and maybe it's a possibility.

I just fear it is way too big a job to fix it all. I guess it would also be crappy to leave all the mess created in the last decades and just walk away.

Its hard to wrap our minds around anyone with actual good intentions ever doing anything because of historical norms.

I am going to keep hoping for that, while I can.

Wait and see how this all plays out with time.



posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:13 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

I suspect Russia was correct and there weren't any chemical weapons used. I believe something is happening that caused Israel to attack unilaterally which forced our hand to finish the job for them.
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posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:18 AM
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a reply to: CoramDeo

At the military briefing today, it was revealed that Assad, himself, was responsible for not allowing independent inspectors.

Makes sense, since he...along with Russia claim they've all been 100% destroyed.

If confirmed...Russia and Assad would have to admit that they lied about their removal...and that they've lost control of the ones that were used by Iranian & NK-backed Clown/Merc/IS forces.

Russia and Assad cannot be seen moving against Iranian/NK interests while allied with them in Syria and elsewhere.

Enter the US/UK/FR last night.

Israel most likely struck Hezbollah HQ in Homs (by the chem storage bunkers), because the chemical weapons stored there were also being exported to Lebanon for eventual use against Israel.
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posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:21 AM
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Round Two



www.conservativereview.com...

"As a lily amongst the thorns."



posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:22 AM
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a reply to: Whereismypassword

Are you saying Hezbollah aren't terrorists?

Also rebel forces fighting against Assad are supported by the US...just not ISIS.

This article says it was ISIS Assad's army was fighting...but of course THEY would say that...



posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:30 AM
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The Damascus 'Science Research Center' was most likely an empty building...designed to be bombed for show.
The REAL targets were the chem/bio storage facilities.
The nearby Hezbollah HQ was hit by Israel days ago.


I'd venture to guess the chem/bio storage facilities were also emptied of personnel and any valuable assets like chemical weapons, if they existed in the first place.

Again, the buildings mean nothing if the scientists and military personnel are still alive. They'll be back up and running in a month or two if they have the know-how.

EDT: BTW, the Israelis know how to conduct a covert military strike. We suck at that.

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posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:41 AM
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originally posted by: CoramDeo
a reply to: IAMTAT




The Damascus 'Science Research Center' was most likely an empty building...designed to be bombed for show.
The REAL targets were the chem/bio storage facilities.
The nearby Hezbollah HQ was hit by Israel days ago.


I'd venture to guess the chem/bio storage facilities were also emptied of personnel and any valuable assets like chemical weapons, if they existed in the first place.

Again, the buildings mean nothing if the scientists and military personnel are still alive. They'll be back up and running in a month or two if they have the know-how.

EDT: BTW, the Israelis know how to conduct a covert military strike. We suck at that.


Possible.
But our intel is most-likely very good...as we have personnel on the ground inside Syria...observing in real time, any chemical weapon transport and/or removal.

With 2000 special forces in the area...we have eyes-on at all times.
The enemy knows we're there watching in real time, as well...and it would be noticed if they were removed from the security of storage bunkers.

Remember....we want to leave Syria...but as long as those chem weapons are still there...we can't take our eyes off of them.
The minute we leave, they get shipped out to Lebanon for use against Israel and, God knows, how many other terrorist organizations and cells around the world.



posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:43 AM
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Lolll please watch Alex Jones leaked video before air.

Warning major language alert.

Made me really lol.

twitter.com...

Edited out pic for bad language


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posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:45 AM
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Round Two (continued)


If you don't like my posts, you can Kish my kaszanka!!

What Q isn't sAYINg.



Expand your thinking.



posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:46 AM
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posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

First, I certainly do apreciate your take on all this.



At the military briefing today, it was revealed that Assad, himself, was responsible for not allowing independent inspectors.


I thought that the area where the chemical attack occurred was not under Assad's control, though, I do understand that the path to get there probably is...



If confirmed...Russia and Assad would have to admit that they lied about their removal...


I don't doubt this, both are full of crap in word and deed.



Russia and Assad cannot be seen moving against Iranian/NK interests while allied with them in Syria and elsewhere.

Enter the US/UK/FR last night.


Probably true, but I don't seee the strikes moving the needle to make the Russians re-align with the west. Putin only cares about getting paid, and he gets paid when there is a secure pipeline running through Syria.



Israel most likely struck Hezbollah HQ in Homs (by the chem storage bunkers), because the chemical weapons stored there were also being exported to Lebanon for eventual use against Israel.


It's damn near impossible to use chamical weapons delivered by conventional mortar or missile. As was pointed out in this thread, most of the chemical agent burns off and is rendered ineffective (or maybe I heard that in a radio discussion). Regardless, the Israel needs to be more concerned about the sheer number of missiles concentrated on its border undr the control of Hezbollah.



Estimates of Hezbollah's total rocket count range from 40,000[14] to 150,000,[15] which is considerably more than most countries.


Striking a base in Homs is sort of ignoring the bigger, more immediate threat right next door. Homs is likely a FOB for the Iranians, but I'm not buying the whole staging area for Chemical weapons production that will eventually make it to Lebanon. If Hezbollah wanted chemical weapons, I'd guess they were making them inside their own territory in Lebanon, not inside a war zone.

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posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:53 AM
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I don't think you can achieve peace without wiping out the bad actors.



posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: FlyingFox
I don't think you can achieve peace without wiping out the bad actors.
That sucks then that means the US will have to be wiped out.




posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: FlyingFox
I don't think you can achieve peace without wiping out the bad actors.


It's like eating a bean burrito without the gas-X.

Eventually there is going to be a gas attack in the future.




posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 11:04 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Thank-you for that excellent analysis!

CNN: "He struck last night to detract from snowballing issues with the Special Counsel..to move that story out of the headlines." That network is poison gas. Get rid of them, Mr. President.



posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: tiredoflooking
Alex Jones will calm down. He blew his stack after the April strike last year too.



posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: CoramDeo

I appreciate your take too. We're all ants on the ground trying to get the view from 30,000 ft.



Probably true, but I don't seee the strikes moving the needle to make the Russians re-align with the west. Putin only cares about getting paid, and he gets paid when there is a secure pipeline running through Syria.

Putin has written off much about Syria and Iran at this stage...with the exception of it's precious lone naval base in the Mediterranean.
As long as Assad is in power...he keeps his navy in the Med.

We (US) are willing to let him keep it...by not removing Assad...which we could very easily have done by targeting him and his government last night with a much greater attack.

We want out of Syria...(and they want us out too)...but we can't leave until chem weapons and ISIS are 100% destroyed.

We have to remember that Superpower nations operate a little differently in the world.
There is a difference between being adversaries and enemies.

The US & Russia are adversaries...but we are not enemies.
Not everything is black & white between us.
We can still compete for power and influence within various regions, while working together through common interests where we find ourselves confronted with situations that are mutually beneficial.

If all adversaries were automatically enemies...both of our countries would be a nuclear wasteland by now.


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posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 11:12 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
The fact that Russian did not activate their air defenses tells me that they were working in tandem with the US/UK/FR in cleaning up ISIS/Clowns during this strike.


No - In both pentagon briefings both generals specifically stated that nobody in Russia was consulted before this attack.

There are a couple reasons they may not have activated their missile defense systems.

1. They don't actually work that well, and they did not want to let us in on that secret.
2. They did not want to use them unless their forces were in danger, because than they open them up to being destroyed.



posted on Apr, 14 2018 @ 11:16 AM
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With 2000 special forces in the area...we have eyes-on at all times.
The enemy knows we're there watching in real time, as well...and it would be noticed if they were removed from the security of storage bunkers.


2000 spread out and imbedded in Syria is pretty small, especially in areas under the cthe conrol of the Assad/RU/Iran triad. Humint will tell you some, but Sigint (eyes in the sky) is what we need to know for sure. But in the lead up to all of this...from four days ago...

Russian military jamming in Syria is seriously affecting US drones

So how much did we actually see?

Maybe all, maybe none.



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