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This is some thing that i share, but as you read you will see why i cannot back this up.

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posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 11:34 AM
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This started as a search to verify some things a friend of mine has told me.
I was in chat here on ATS last night, and people started to verify what i had been told.
So here it is.

A friend of mine, who i have known for 17 years, is a Royal Marine. he works in a specialist unit, that deals with security, mainly oil, nuclear, special access projects ect.
He came home on leave before Xmas, and when we were alone, started to talk about where he had been.
He said that he had been " working in the Western USA ". I laughed.
He then said some thing that amazed me.
" No, i have been there for a year, building and testing secure camps, along with some French and german troops."
I asked him how they kept it secret.
" we get the US to close all the roads into the areas we are building, and the guards who take over make sure no one comes near."
asking him who the guards were, he said they belonged to wakenhut, and were all ex-US military. He got offerd a job with them, but declined. He then went on to build another camp. he has built 6 so far.
Each one is made for 1000 people max, is as he puts it, " super secure", but heres the rub.
When all these troops are building the camps, they have to dress in US forces gear, and use US weapons.

this is just the out line, and as i said, i asked around the chat room, and a few people knew about remote areas and road closures.

I will share more if i get any more info, but as i live in UK, i cannot go see for my self.

Oh, and you ask how do they get all the materials in without being noticed? super heavy lift blimps. Engines buried inside the body on the top.

I cannot go see for myself, so if any one in the USA has any more to add, i would appreciate it.Mad Grimbo




posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by MadGrimbo
Oh, and you ask how do they get all the materials in without being noticed? super heavy lift blimps. Engines buried inside the body on the top.


I think that that would be a pretty good clue that this story is B.S.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 02:00 PM
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It's most probably true look at whats really happening in Cuba at Guantanimo Bay geocities.com...



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 02:12 PM
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I think the blimps give it away a BS, as well.

It would be a lot easier for them to just order materiels like any one else, and say it was a project for the Army. Now if he said materiel was flown in on c-130's or dropped of by trucks that would make more sense.

Super secret blimps sounds like some sci-fi out of the '30s or 19th century.

I mean why build camps in secrecy? They could build all the camps they want in the normal way and no one would question them. If they really blocked off a bunch of roads, and flew everything in on blimps, more people would suspect something.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 02:32 PM
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why would they suspect what they think is normal?? only now does it not seem normal as this guys mentioning it and whats gone on.

as for blimps sounds like a good idea, under cover of night fly them in as quite as a mouse no one would suspect nowt as nothing is seen or heard.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 02:59 PM
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As i said,
I cannot back this up, as i do not live in the USA, and cannot actually go look for myself.

I have how ever, asked in the chat rooms here on ATS about road closures, in specific areas of the western USA.
People have ( members here on ATS ) confirmed the road closures are happening.
I was not going to post this, but after alot of thought and asking around, i did, because i was asked to, mainly to see if any one had come across any thing similar.

As for UK and foriegn troops operating on US soil, well, i will dig out the articles i have found ( unrelated to this thread ). Thank you for any more info you may have. Its appreciated.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 03:23 PM
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It seems to be very much in relation to this thread.

When BBC newsmen were permitted to interview these soldiers in training,they repeatedly asked them the following question. "What are you preparingto use this training for?" The shocking, consistent reply was
"FOR THE COMING INVASION OF AMERICA!"
THE COMING INVASION OF AMERICA

So is it the same, being so closely related one has to wonder. Perhaps searches of non US internet sources can provide more.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 03:37 PM
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Ok, i know its not totaly related but i found this.

www.infowars.com...

So, i know its hard to believe, but look at the badges. There is a British military intelligence officer, and Royal Engineers there... look at the badges!

And... as i said in my post... some of the foriegn troops are wearing US cammo...
I know this isn't the exact same as i posted, and they say it is an exercise, but please, have a look around to see what you can find. I have a feeling this may be urgent.
MadGrimbo.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 03:46 PM
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I may not be so far wrong as you think.

It took some looking around, but i was determined to find this.

here, read for your selves. This man is in your goverment, not mine. Im afraid that if we lose America to these people, the worlds up a creek with no paddle. read for yourselves.

www.infowars.com...

Info wars. This is one site i will keep my eyes on.



posted on Feb, 17 2005 @ 04:12 PM
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OK i know its another info wars thing, but its showing some thing that i was on about in my first post.

www.infowars.com...

any explanations for this are welcome, as is any discussions/ points you want to raise. if you want to chat about it, u2u me, and i will meet you in a chat room at a time that suites you.

MadGrimbo



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 01:38 AM
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It sounds like its a part of the REX 84 program. Please search ATS for this, there's plenty of it around.

I believe the camps may be intended for large masses of people who may wash up on shore by the thousands in case of global flooding. Such as those from the carribean. The scenario was actually mentioned in the Pentagon report on Global Warming catastophes. They fear thousands upon thousands of people coming to the US to escape some sort of disaster at sea. Mexico and South America would face the same problem.

Find that Pentagon paper, you'll see what I mean.



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 01:49 AM
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Yeah sure.

I'm sure that a bunch of other nations are building bases inside the U.S. with the aid of the U.S. military to TAKE OVER OUR CITIES!!

Really though, what could possibly be the motivation a bunch of euro nations and australia to invade us with our help.

Perhaps if there is any truth to this story it just might be . . . TRAINING!

I know it's kinda far fetched but, there is that tiny little sliver of a possibility that we brought foreign troops into the U.S. to train for urban combat and not to take over our own urban areas. Not to mention the fact that anyone who does invade us better count on the massive amount of armed civilians to put up a fight.



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 02:10 AM
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Great Threads In ATS History


Originally posted by MadGrimbo
This started as a search to verify some things a friend of mine has told me.
I was in chat here on ATS last night, and people started to verify what i had been told.

Congratulations -- or condolences -- for your Pierre Salinger Award!

Just remember to always insist that it might be true.



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 07:59 AM
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Hey man, get off my back on this one will you?

I accept the award, wipe my arse with it, and hand it back on the toe of my boot.

I have not been able to look for myself, because i do not live in the USA.... so i asked fellow members... whats so bad with that? I don't believe, or disbelieve, but i am trying to deny ignorance on this one.

As a former soldier with the British Army ( Infantry ), i know we have plenty of our own training areas for fighting in built up areas ( FIBUA ), and i know that so do the Austrailians. So, get off my back, and if what i posted bores you, DON'T READ IT!

I posted this because the source is A) A good long time friend of mine. and B) was right about the F-117 nearly two years before it was made publicly known.

I trust him, so i want to dig a little bit deeper into this, JUST IN CASE IT IS NOT A TRAINING EXERCISE, AND PEOPLE NEED WARNING!



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 09:01 AM
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MadGrimbo, you said your information pertains to locations "in specific areas of the western USA" and that "People have ( members here on ATS ) confirmed the road closures are happening"

So then you know the locations.

Exactly where are these places?



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 11:33 AM
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Well, Mad Grimbo, I think that you are, as we say here in the States, "full of it", because your premise makes no sense, your technical details (magic blimps) make no sense, and your evidence is non-existent.

Still, this being a conapiracy forum, you will find a lot of people that think places like "infowars" is serious evidence, so more people will be 'oooh-ing and ahhh-ing over your posts than laughing at them.

That in itself is, I suppose, some sort of moral victory for you, n'est-ce pas?



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 12:19 PM
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Off the street.

1) The blimps are not "magic", they are just heavy lifter blimps.

2) Utah, Arizona, Michigan, Florida, and another on the West coast border with canada.
I do NOT live in the USA, so i cannot go look ( as i have said 3 times before.)

Maybe they are exercise areas, i DO NOT KNOW! omfg... And as for no foriegn troops.... Look at Canada... oh look, forget it. Im going to let it drop, im fed up repeating myself, and if it does ever happen, well, c'est la vie! Macanarish.



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 01:07 PM
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Madgrimbo, you're not helping your case here. First you state a geographic location.

Originally posted by MadGrimbo
He said that he had been " working in the Western USA ".


Then you state you've asked about specific areas.

Originally posted by MadGrimbo
I have how ever, asked in the chat rooms here on ATS about road closures, in specific areas of the western USA.


When asked for more details about the specific areas you respond with:

Originally posted by MadGrimbo
2) Utah, Arizona, Michigan, Florida, and another on the West coast border with canada.


Having been born and raised in Florida for 30 years prior to moving to NY I can quite comfortably state that Florida is not in the western US. But, if you could give specific areas other than the names of states, people might actually be able to help you out and you might find that the responses here become supportive and not challenging.



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 02:32 PM
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Pierre Salinger Syndrome Illustrated


Originally posted by MadGrimbo
Hey man, get off my back on this one will you?

I accept the award, wipe my arse with it, and hand it back on the toe of my boot.

Here's the reason for the Pierre Salinger Award.

You posted hearsay that was originally unsupported by anything other than statements you say were made by a long-time friend.

That's fine. No worries so far, you were very clear about the uncertain nature of the claim.

Then you make assertions that you can't substantiate about road closures and heavy-lift blimps, claim people on ATS chat told you about road closures then start posting links to InfoWars as some sort of proof.

Now I'm getting suspicious. If you read about what Pierre Salinger Syndrome is, you'll see why you earned the award.

Pierre Salinger did exactly what you are doing in this thread. Take that as an insult if you like, you're the one “pulling a Salinger”, not me.

Insulting The Locals

The problem here is that I live in the western United States. Not that far from the Nellis range and “Area 51”, in fact.

While I don't know everything that goes on around here, I do travel extensively throughout the west on business of my own and have done so for a very long time.

We do, in fact, see various military exercises out here in my neck of the woods all the time. What we don't see are secret closures of public roads or “heavy-lift blimps”.

I know, associate with and am related to quite a few people around here -- in my state of Nevada, as well as Utah, Idaho, Montana, Oregon, California and Arizona -- and no one I know, know of, am related to, or “who knows somebody” has ever reported a road closure by Wackenhut or any other private security firm, or seeing any heavy-lift blimps by daylight or night.

Wackenhut doesn't have authority to close public roads, and believe me, if anyone I know or that knows them was forced to detour from a public road by some rent-a-cop, there would be plenty of discussion about it. Snow closures and closures for hazardous spill cleanups get enough complaints as it is. Some recent mudslide closures around Caliente caused some major grief.

And there's the main reason why I'm so skeptical: we don't have all that many roads to close. If you close a single two-lane road (even unpaved county roads) around here, that cuts people off from their homes and can strand people in the desert without food, gas or shelter.

Nevada and all the western U.S. is dotted by small communities and ranches. You close any road out here, you're cutting someone off from food, supplies and civilization, and we don't take kindly to that around these here parts, pilgrim.

Now if you want to claim that on the one hand you don't know what's going on, and on the other hand you know more about what goes on in my neck of the woods than I do, you are free to do so, but you won't be convincing me of anything other than your dishonesty.

An Award Twice Earned

So here's your Pierre Salinger Award back, adorned as you saw fit to adorn it.

Display it proudly, because you've earned it. And feel free to savor the aroma you gave it.

Now, is there something fishy going on around here? There's always something fishy going on around here. But this thread is fishier.

Does what I know about this area mean your story can't be true? Not necessarily, I'm not omniscient. But I do live here, and I make it my business to know what goes on around here – more than you'll ever know, I assure you.

So go a., ridicule the locals. You took the award I gave you as an insult, even though you earned it – and it was intended as an illustration, not an insult, by the way.

If I wanted to insult you, there would be no doubt in your mind or anyone else's that I did. I have a lot of practice from my alt.flame days, and you've given much to work with.

But I am not out to insult you.

I am skeptical, because I've seen stories like this circulating for about three decades now – used to see this sort of thing daily back in the '80s. So far, every last one of them has proven to be identical to what you so artistically smeared your award with. This story smells exactly the same as all that other crap.

The real insult is using Pierre Salinger's tactics to try to pull a fast one on us. The award was my little way of pointing that out.

Want to gain some credibility? Post what roads were closed and when. I'll check it out for you.

Otherwise, feel free to insult skepticism and prove you are worthy of it by doing so.



posted on Feb, 18 2005 @ 02:44 PM
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You have voted Majic for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have two more votes this month.





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