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*any campaign* with all that questionable # going for it wouldn't be deserving of investigation.
originally posted by: theantediluvian
a reply to: Sublimecraft
Well except for the fact that it's 100% true that idiot Trump, the feckless Putin ass kissing clown, did in fact bring on Manafort to run his campaign, a man who was in fact in touch with his Oleg Deripaska offering up briefings and who knows what else to a Putin pal to whom he owned millions of dollars and from whom he had received millions of dollars to lobby for Putin. A man who also worked for a decade (concurrent with his Putin lobbying) for Putin's man in Ukraine, Yanukovych.
Trump couldn't have found a more Putin-connected campaign advisor without hiring one straight out of the Kremlin. None of that is in dispute.
Nor is it in dispute that George Papadopoulos was approached by what was almost certainly an SVR agent (the mysterious beautiful Russian coed who he thought was Putin's niece) or that either she or the shady Professor Misfud (who has a Ukranian baby's mama looking for him currently) told Papadopoulos that the Russians had Clinton-related emails (which they did) and he ran his mouth to an Aussie diplomat.
That # happened.
Nor is there any dispute that Carter Page, who has described himself in the past as Kremlin advisor, who was targeted for recruitment by the SVR and who was previously surveilled under a FISA warrant, ran off to Moscow to talk # on the US and met with questionable characters, including his old pal, Sechin's underling, the director of investor relations for Rosneft — in the final month before the DNC hack was exposed.
And it's also not in dispute that Gen. Flynn, a man who was 100% knowingly lobbying for Turkey illegally (including getting paid through shell companies) while making policy recommendations to Trump and who reportedly was engaged in plotting to kidnap a Turkish dissident from the US — for a big pay day — was undercutting sanctions against Russia in back channel with Kislyak and lied about it to the FBI.
I don't know how many more red flags this #show of an administration could have throw up short of burning down the White House and raising a Russian flag in its ashes.
But it's somehow US law enforcement/intelligence agencies being weaponized against Trump because a FISA warrant was granted against sketchy self-described Kremlin advisor Carter Page who wasn't even still with the campaign.
That doesn't even make sense. No matter how much hyperbolic nonsense people spew about the FBI and DOJ. If they hadn't been investigating Carter Page, it would have been dereliction of duty beyond the dereliction under Obama that allowed # with Russia to get as far as it did.
I just can't see how Trump supporters can not or will not see that *any campaign* with all that questionable # going for it wouldn't be deserving of investigation. Should the US have just bent over and grabbed it's ankles for Putin because Trump is an incomprehensible moron who blabs about "hiring the best" and yet filled his campaign with Russian stooges (and his administration with people who clearly haven't been the best since he's fired half of them about half of those left are corrupt af swamp monsters).
originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Sublimecraft
I'm sure you think you've made some kind of point. You've fallen short of the actual point though...I'm sorry.
His intent was to end the investigation.