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I find it stupid that a pacifying plant is illegal, but a weapon that can harm numerous people in a short period is substantially easier from a legal standpoint to get and KEEP.
The gun laws of California[3][4] are some of the most restrictive in the United States. A 5-year Firearm Safety Certificate, obtained by paying a $25 fee, submission of applicant data to the state, and passing a written test proctored by a DOJ Certified Instructor, is required for the sale, delivery, loan, or transfer of any firearm.[5][6] Handguns sold by dealers must be "California legal" by being listed on the state's Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.[7] This roster, which requires handgun manufacturers to pay a fee and submit specific models for safety testing, has become progressively more stringent over time and is currently the subject of a federal civil rights lawsuit on the basis that it is a de facto ban on new handgun models.[8] Private sales of firearms must be done through a licensed dealer. All firearm sales are recorded by the state, and have a ten-day waiting period. Unlike most other states, California has no provision in its state constitution that explicitly guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms.[1][not in citation given] The California Supreme Court has maintained that most of California's restrictive gun laws are constitutional, because the state's constitution does not explicitly guarantee private citizens the right to purchase, possess, or carry firearms.
originally posted by: CynConcepts
Seriously? Weed? Abortion? Religion? Gun rights? Anitifa? Etc? WTH? I came in late and kept reading from pg 1 hoping to find out what the real facts are regarding this desperate situation? What is happening? Was it simply a lovers or worker dispute gone bad? Was it a more calculated impersonal issue? What I found is too many ATSers rambling off on multiple immaterial personal perspective issues that should have no place in a breaking news thread!
Make your own offshoot threads in the mud pit if you want to make muddies and throw them regarding this!
Has there been any new news on whether it was one lone woman? Any other confirmation on the tweets of a possible male in armor? Did she arrived dressed in armor and try to exit as a innocent woman? Or was this a multiple shooter situation?
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Nyiah
Utterly amazing how everyone completely missed OSOTC's point. Which was that it's easier to obtain a legal weapon than a legal joint in AL. The difference being that the weapon is legal, while the innocuous plant is not. How TF does someone so willfully miss that one? I mean, like RIGHT over heads, the breeze & whizzing sounds and all.
Oh I dunno, could have something to do with the fact that's not what he said. In the original post on that subject, he made no mention of the legality of either. Further he suggested if people could get weed easier there might be less violence, which actually goes against the claim that he was only talking about the irony that it's not legal. People can get weed easy, it's just not legal.
That is not how I nor most others think of cannabis by default. I interpreted his comment by the default view I have, being that illegal pot, while not hard to come by if you commit to sussing out sources, is not in fact easier to get than filling out the paperwork for a gun purchase. Like him, I find it stupid that a pacifying plant is illegal, but a weapon that can harm numerous people in a short period is substantially easier from a legal standpoint to get and KEEP.
And he is correct, IMO, that physical violence would likely reduce notably if it were legal across the board. When have you ever known a stoner to get blitzed & violent, rather than settling for raiding a cupboard/fridge or fall asleep?
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
Don't be ignorant & naive though people...
This has nothing to do with guns... If she didn't have such easy access to a gun, then she would've just found another way to create the same kind of chaos... like with a shoe lace or coat hanger, something...
What else do you want? Ban and confiscate?
I don't really "want" anything, tbh. Its not my fight... one way or the other.
I'm just a simple spectator...
Right, except you're passive-aggressively making snarky comments about how we're doing something wrong. I'm curious to know your suggestion about what California could have done to stop this. Or were you just talking out of your ass because you have no idea what California's gun laws are and don't know enough about the subject to offer a potential solution?
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: face23785
Actually quite early on I did actually say legally.
It’s rather telling how you need spoon fed all of this...
originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
originally posted by: yuppa
originally posted by: TobyFlenderson
a reply to: yuppa
Words are weapons? That's what I was missing that made ME look stupid? What are you, twelve?
Apparently you missed where i said something else. 6th post from the bottom. can you not read between the lines?
Dude this thread is already 11pages long with 230 posts from multiple memebers.
Sorry to break this too you but your posts are just not interesting enough to keep track off. Nor do they really make much sense
originally posted by: RomeByFire
originally posted by: face23785
He didn't have a gun, but he wishes he did:
Just taking a wild guess you won't be seeing this clip played on CNN much.
"The mainstream media is bought and paid for except for FOX, they're real news!"