Mueller Was Authorized to Investigate Paul Manafort’s Work for Ukraine

Yanukovych was the buffer between the west and Russia. It was neither pro west nor was it pro Russia. The west did a coup to overthrow Yanukovych but Putin annexed Crimea to prevent Ukraine joining NATO.

originally posted by: sunShines
Yanukovych was the buffer between the west and Russia. It was neither pro west nor was it pro Russia. The west did a coup to overthrow Yanukovych but Putin annexed Crimea to prevent Ukraine joining NATO.

It was the West that walked out of its agreement to have closer ties with Ukraine, not Yanukovych? Putin invaded Crimea to keep Ukraine from joining NATO? And not to keep Russia's port on the Black Sea?

a reply to: yuppa

Oh a sevret memo from a person working for mueller. sounds legit.

Wrong; a secret memo from the man Mueller is working for. The man Trump himself appointed to the position. It is very legit indeed.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: sunShines
Yanukovych was the buffer between the west and Russia. It was neither pro west nor was it pro Russia. The west did a coup to overthrow Yanukovych but Putin annexed Crimea to prevent Ukraine joining NATO.

It was the West that walked out of its agreement to have closer ties with Ukraine, not Yanukovych? Putin invaded Crimea to keep Ukraine from joining NATO? And not to keep Russia's port on the Black Sea?

NATO does not accept a country that has territorial dispute. Ukraine does not give up claim on Crimea. That is territorial dispute.

a reply to: xuenchen

Still not understanding the strategy eh.

You mean the 3D chess master is lulling the Deep State into a false sense of security by allowing them to expose his staff as being Russian agents then BANG! he springs the trap?

You'll get it soon when the Sun comes up.

Is that the latest from QAnon?

originally posted by: sunShines

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: sunShines
Yanukovych was the buffer between the west and Russia. It was neither pro west nor was it pro Russia. The west did a coup to overthrow Yanukovych but Putin annexed Crimea to prevent Ukraine joining NATO.

It was the West that walked out of its agreement to have closer ties with Ukraine, not Yanukovych? Putin invaded Crimea to keep Ukraine from joining NATO? And not to keep Russia's port on the Black Sea?

NATO does not accept a country that has territorial dispute. Ukraine does not give up claim on Crimea. That is territorial dispute.

But Ukraine was not up for membership in NATO. There were talks of allowing it a special "observer status." Putin violated the Budapest Memorandum, proving his word is worthless. He wanted Sevastopol, he got Sevastopol. Too bad he can't afford it.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: yuppa

Oh a sevret memo from a person working for mueller. sounds legit.

Wrong; a secret memo from the man Mueller is working for. The man Trump himself appointed to the position. It is very legit indeed.

so with the "secret memo" being exposed to protect muellers authority are we going to see the same steps in this case as in flynns case?

In December, Judge Emmet G. Sullivan ordered Special Counsel Robert Mueller to provide Flynn’s attorneys with any and all information that may have been withheld from the case.

Know what happens when the prosecution withholds evidence from the defense?

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: sunShines

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: sunShines
Yanukovych was the buffer between the west and Russia. It was neither pro west nor was it pro Russia. The west did a coup to overthrow Yanukovych but Putin annexed Crimea to prevent Ukraine joining NATO.

It was the West that walked out of its agreement to have closer ties with Ukraine, not Yanukovych? Putin invaded Crimea to keep Ukraine from joining NATO? And not to keep Russia's port on the Black Sea?

NATO does not accept a country that has territorial dispute. Ukraine does not give up claim on Crimea. That is territorial dispute.

But Ukraine was not up for membership in NATO. There were talks of allowing it a special "observer status." Putin violated the Budapest Memorandum, proving his word is worthless. He wanted Sevastopol, he got Sevastopol. Too bad he can't afford it.

Ukraine did a coup. The Budapest Memorandum was signed with the pre coup government. The treaty does not extend to the new government post coup.

As an analogy, the US supplied F-14 to the pre coup Iran government, the contract does not extend to the post coup Iran government.

a reply to: shooterbrody

so with the "secret memo" being exposed to protect muellers authority are we going to see the same steps in this case as in flynns case?

Of course. Disclosing the memo was the first step.

a reply to: sunShines

Nice attempt to turn the thread off topic.

a reply to: vinifalou

Why aren't people going to jail yet?

This just in: They are.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: yuppa

Oh a sevret memo from a person working for mueller. sounds legit.

Wrong; a secret memo from the man Mueller is working for. The man Trump himself appointed to the position. It is very legit indeed.

Those e mails reveal Muellers boss is in on it dont they? Woudnt be the first time someone trump appointed stabbed him in the back would it?

Point stands Muellers dirty to begin with. His past prosecutions are evidence of that. SO hwo do we trust a man who has been caught lying to keep innocent men in jail? we cant if you are honest.

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: vinifalou

Why aren't people going to jail yet?

This just in: They are.

FBI always tries to convict you even if you actually arent guilty of anything except a bad memory.

Yeah, I think I'll just leave this here...

twitter.com...

a reply to: yuppa

Yeah. When you talk to FBI, just say I don't recall.

a reply to: sunShines

better to say ask my lawyer. lol. that really urks them.

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: sunShines

better to say ask my lawyer. lol. that really urks them.

So why are so few in Trump's orbit saying that instead of lying?

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: yuppa
a reply to: sunShines

better to say ask my lawyer. lol. that really urks them.

So why are so few in Trump's orbit saying that instead of lying?

because they are stupid and think they have perfect memories.

lawandcrime.com...

Here’s the weird part about this: The Rosenstein “secret” memo revealed in this week’s court filing is dated August 2, 2017. According to media reports, Paul Manfort’s home was raided July 26, 2017. So that means Rosenstein’s laid out the more specified scope and definition of authority for the special counsel investigation six days after Manafort’s home had already been raided.

well now there may be a bit more to this than originally indicated.....

Interestingly, the secret Rosenstein Memo specifically states the “following allegations were within the scope of the investigation at the time of (Mueller’s) appointment” (on May 17,2017) and are “within the scope of the order.” If that’s true, why did Rosenstein wait 3 months to write that memo? Wouldn’t this be something that Rosenstein would want to get into the official record right after making the May appointment? As Manafort’s case unfolds in court, you can bet his attorneys will be asking those very same questions.

The hearing scheduled for today should be VERY interesting.