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originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: katerinaGrace
I made no excuse of the horrors committed in her name, but I can see how the system broke her, I also will not ignore how she tried to hold a family together and continued to fight against oppression.
Again one can hardly find a hero without blemish especially those under arms.
When I heard Winnie Mandela passed away the other night, it didn't seem appropriate to speak ill of her. But then again people in other countries aren't held to our traditions, so they could let rip into the negative aspects of her legacy straight away. For me it was more a courtesy and respect thing, because despite my strong opinions currently, I'm not totally isolated from other population groups in the country, their traditions, languages and divergent sense of history.
Although she wasn't in public life perhaps for over a decade, she was one of those celebrity politicians that made part of my youth and memories, and it's a chapter closed in my own experience. Perhaps a bit like PW Botha (who also got a state funeral from erstwhile ideological enemies), and begrudgingly nobody said anything bad around the time of his passing, although a lot of white males suffered under his militarized rule as well. But when I heard, I still said, "I'm sorry to hear, and condolences ...". It's more a cultural courtesy thing, at least until the funeral is over.
Oddly enough it was former President Thabo Mbeki who found himself in hot water from his own ANC party for his critique of Winnie Mandela so shortly after her death (rather than any of the opposition parties). It seems that both black and white South Africans still have a lot of respect for the concept of "elders", whereas Mbeki spent most of his formative years in exile (his own legacy hardly clean; especially his AIDS denialism). Added to this is that Mbeki was seen as one faction of the ANC after 1994, and Chris Hani and Winnie Mandela the more populist faction to replace Nelson Mandela, and many suspect that Mbeki's faction had a hand in Hani's assassination (behind the hapless white patsies), according to some conspiracies, in cahoots with the CIA. Whatever the case, Mbeki was seen as very disrespectful by his own party this week.
I think one does need to have at least a bit of respect, diplomacy and humanity when public figures pass away.