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The Book burners are at it again

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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 07:39 PM
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More than 25 cities across the United States have removed or relocated Confederate statues and monuments amid an intense nationwide debate about race and history.
After a “Unite the Right” rally in Virginia in August to protest against the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee resulted in the death of a woman who was demonstrating against white supremacy, other cities have decided to remove Confederate statues.
Many of the controversial mouments were dedicated in the early twentieth century or during the height of the Civil Rights Movement. Discussions are under way about the removal of monuments in Houston, Atlanta, Nashville, Pensacola, Florida, Jacksonville, Florida, Richmond, Virginia, Birmingham, Alabama, and Charlottesville, Virginia.
Here is a running list of all the monuments and statues that have been removed and the cities that have taken them down:


See link for all the places the censors and book burners have been busy.

www.foxnews.com...


Statues are art. They are representations of individuals who have lived at other times.

Does it matter who they are?

Statues are physical representations. Books are literary representations.

When will we see books being "removed for our safety"?

This is a direct assault on free speech, free expression.

In my humble opinion.



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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 07:44 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

It's all part of rewriting history.

I personally think our monuments should stand, so that younger generations can learn what happened, and why.

However, that would put the Democratic party of the USA in an extremely bad light.

So hey! Gloss it over, rewrite the history books, make embarrassing things go away.

Just another day in socialist America.

Sad really.


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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

We have to forget that the civil war happened, and why.

Then forget why civil rights were fought for in the first place.

Then do it all over again?



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 07:45 PM
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When will we see books being "removed for our safety"?


They have been, both in libraries and in schools across the country in our history (and I agree with none of the book removals, ever).


See link for all the places the censors and book burners have been busy.


Didn't see any book burning there.


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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 07:49 PM
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a reply to: Liquesence

Book burners, statue removers. . . . I don't really see a difference.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 07:50 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Liquesence

Book burners, statue removers. . . . I don't really see a difference.



That's the problem.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Liquesence

Book burners, statue removers. . . . I don't really see a difference.



That's the problem.


To you maybe.

But I'm for free expression so I don't really have a problem.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

eh

who needs to see the statues when you can look at pics of them on google

i heard that argument when we all talked about libraries and museums closing.


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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 07:59 PM
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When another person or a group of people get to determine what I or anyone else can look at or read or see, be it a painting, a book, a statue, then they become authoritarian-totalitarian douchebags who censor.

They are book burners.

They are cowardly scum who think that they should determine what I can see or read.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:01 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Liquesence

Book burners, statue removers. . . . I don't really see a difference.



That's the problem.


To you maybe.

But I'm for free expression so I don't really have a problem.


Free expression is fine, and I support it.

But book banning/burning is different than the removal of a statue.

ETA: I personally don't have a problem with statues. But it's still a different issue than with books. :/


edit on 2-4-2018 by Liquesence because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:02 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: DBCowboy

eh

who needs to see the statues when you can look at pics of them on google

i heard that argument when we all talked about libraries and museums closing.



Is this stance applicable to all statues? All texts?



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
When another person or a group of people get to determine what I or anyone else can look at or read or see, be it a painting, a book, a statue, then they become authoritarian-totalitarian douchebags who censor.

They are book burners.

They are cowardly scum who think that they should determine what I can see or read.


Go to a museum or library, then.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:03 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

i agree with you.
burning books is not the same thing but i agree

there are a lot of things i do not want to see and do not want to listen to but i want to be able to do so if and when i choose. not anyone else

not into censorship


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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:04 PM
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posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:04 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

i dont know.
not my stance.
it was an argument i heard when there was a thread about the libraries

see my post above



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:05 PM
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I get annoyed anytime someone decides that others have to be protected from history or art or literature because some other people didn't like what they saw or read because it hurt or offended them.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:06 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: JinMI

i dont know.
not my stance.
it was an argument i heard when there was a thread about the libraries

see my post above


Fair enough. The problem with that standpoint is it allows for the silencing/censoring/banning of something that could be easily disagreeable among the majority at the time. However, that same tactic will be used again and again, and in time against something you may value.

It's the song that never ends, so to speak.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:08 PM
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For the record, I'm all for putting statues of Klansmen, Hitler, Oswald, Mao, etc, in every US city and town so we "don't forget," but then again, that is why we have books, libraries, and museums.



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:10 PM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
For the record, I'm all for putting statues of Klansmen, Hitler, Oswald, Mao, etc, in every US city and town so we "don't forget," but then again, that is why we have books, libraries, and museums.


I don't think we have to put them there, but I think in the places where they were erected in those days, some of them should be left as a reminder of what was.

You'll note that we do not destroy the Concentration Camps even though I am sure there is a certain segment of the population that finds them very offensive and/or hurtful to see.

We don't destroy the boarding schools where Indian children were taken in an attempt to "civilize" them either even though that's likely an uncomfortable experience for quite a few people.

But heaven forbid we leave certain statues where they are!
edit on 2-4-2018 by ketsuko because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 2 2018 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

It's authoritarian.

It's totalitarian.


It is in direct conflict of free expression.


But some people obviously hate free expression and want this douche-baggery.


We, as a nation, have the ability to vote and elect people to censor. We, as a people, can censor and deny ourselves rights.

We're seeing it right now.




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