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So much for gun control...

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posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:22 PM
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London has officially topped New York City for its murder rate, as the gun-lacking nation's criminals turn to knives and other deadly weapons in place of firearms.

Sadly, law abiding UK citizens have been denied the right of public self defense by their government.


The city of Big Ben and the tube that sits on the Thames River overtook New York in murders for the first time in modern history as the British capital dealt with a surge in knife attacks.

The Sunday Times reports that 15 people were murdered in London, against 14 in New York. Both cities are very diverse with large populations: London has over 8.7 million residents to New York’s 8.5 million.


www.foxnews.com...



Stop the madness! Firearms save the lives of innocents everywhere. Gun rights are human rights.
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posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
Gun rights are human rights.


people are so silly


this gonna be another thread where a bunch of people tell a bunch of others how their laws suck and whats wrong with their country and why their country is the best?


The Sunday Times reports that 15 people were murdered in London, against 14 in New York. Both cities are very diverse with large populations: London has over 8.7 million residents to New York’s 8.5 million.


when you look at it like that it dont seem as sensational
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posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:28 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
London has officially topped New York City for its murder rate, as the gun-lacking nation's criminals turn to knives and other deadly weapons in place of firearms.

Sadly, law abiding UK citizens have been denied the right of public self defense by their government.


The city of Big Ben and the tube that sits on the Thames River overtook New York in murders for the first time in modern history as the British capital dealt with a surge in knife attacks.

The Sunday Times reports that 15 people were murdered in London, against 14 in New York. Both cities are very diverse with large populations: London has over 8.7 million residents to New York’s 8.5 million.


www.foxnews.com...



Stop the madness! Firearms save the lives of innocents everywhere. Gun rights are human rights.


Third thread on this subject, could you maybe read one of them to realise why you are talking nonsense?



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:30 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

i just searched murder rate in london and saw the same headline on different sites and they gave different figures.

interesting



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:38 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: JBurns
Gun rights are human rights.


people are so silly




Says the guy wearing horns, goggles, and green hair braids.



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:38 PM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: JBurns
Gun rights are human rights.


people are so silly




Says the guy wearing horns, goggles, and green hair braids.


thats correct
and ooooh burn



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: JBurns
The way you use the term “officially” makes NYC sound dangerous. Are you aware of murder rates in other cities or town across the world?



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: KansasGirl
One person showing expression does not mean that they are silly. Being silly is an emotion. Not a picture. Get with it yo.



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:51 PM
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So why don’t the Londoners use the same weapons the criminals use to defend themselves? You know, kind of like Crocodile Dundee did. Now THAT’s a knife.



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: JBurns


There are two other threads on this.

ETA: And citing New York City, where the gun laws are super stringent, is probably not the best tact to take when making a pro-gun statement.






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posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv
If no gun is available for use than the next go to is a knife or something similar. And your reference is awesome BTW.


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posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Sounds like it time for a nationwide roundup of slingshots / wrist rockets.



This Slingshot Can Kill Humans—With Style



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: kaylaluv

Because most knives are banned too.




posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 04:06 PM
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You guys are probably celebrating this tiny "victory".

"They have more crime than us, yay! Hopefully more people in London are killed so our biases are confirmed even further. Yay murder and violence in other countries!"

The first time in history this has happened. In the HISTORY of the statistic, the very FIRST time and you guys are acting like it means something to your political agenda. Never let a good tragedy go to waste.



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

It isn't sensational at all. And I'm not trying to change UK policy, just point out how nonsensical it is. Just goes to show you that a country with strict gun laws doesn't fare better than one without. Recall that SCOTUS forced NY/NYC to stop denying citizen's the right to carry. NYC's annual deaths used to be in the THOUSANDS when all firearms were virtually banned. They have since dropped to the lowest numbers anyone can recall...

Coincidence? Could be. Could also be that legal firearms has absolutely nothing to do with violent criminals committing crimes (the only thing they know how to do) - except reducing it through deterrence or outright force. Either way, something is working in NYC. And it appears violent crime in anti-gun areas universally goes up..check the stats.

Anecdotal evidence also suggests a good portion of those calling for outright gun confiscation (vs. certain reasonable and near universally supported background checks, training, etc) are actually unable to themselves own firearms. On one website I frequent, a convicted robber (not burglar, but actual robber) was the loudest voice against....

Again, just anecdotal. And I agree, the overall number killed by firearms in the US and other countries every year is a very insignificant number.
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posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
You guys are probably celebrating this tiny "victory".

"They have more crime than us, yay! Hopefully more people in London are killed so our biases are confirmed even further. Yay murder and violence in other countries!"

The first time in history this has happened. In the HISTORY of the statistic, the very FIRST time and you guys are acting like it means something to your political agenda. Never let a good tragedy go to waste.


his stats say a place with 200k more people had 1 more murder once

woooooohoooooooo!!!!!!!

its a trend. its proof.
they need more gunz



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: JBurns
Just goes to show you that a country with strict gun laws doesn't fare better than one without. Recall that SCOTUS forced NY/NYC to stop denying citizen's the right to carry.


I suspect you've never tried or don't know anyone who's tried to get a carry permit in New York City.

You can follow this civil rights attorney's legal struggles as he tries to obtain one.

Crime isn't down in New York City because everyone is carrying, it's down because of a host of reasons.




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posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 04:16 PM
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Having something is only part of the problem, I've got a lot of knives and even an older version of www.thorhammer.com... but being over 6ft and blonde haired I think i'm allowed it
and am a UK citizen and its more you have to have reasonable reason to carry something but anything below 3 inches is allowed by default but thats enough to cause enough damage.

Then again I went from 8 to 17 carrying knives in the scouts, lobbing axes and generally being 1 step from burning my self to death etc and I aint turned into a serial killer so perhaps the solution is a bit of controlled release as if theres a bit of aggression inside you can burn it out breaking up a few dozen pallettes rather than slicing someone up.



posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: kaylaluv
So why don’t the Londoners use the same weapons the criminals use to defend themselves? You know, kind of like Crocodile Dundee did. Now THAT’s a knife.



Why not have both? These are ours

Cold steel San Mai3 Kukri


Corsican Vendetta knife


Talon



But these work even better, especially the big one

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posted on Apr, 1 2018 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears


this gonna be another thread where a bunch of people tell a bunch of others how their laws suck and whats wrong with their country and why their country is the best?


The cops in UK don't shoot as many people as in the US. But leaves out the terror attacks by truck and cars, burned down apartments and drug overdoses.

Who's winning now?



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