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posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 03:53 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

And it is a fact, black youths are vastly disproportionately stabbing people to death than Asians or white folk.
Do you disagree?

EDIT
In London.
edit on 3-4-2018 by CornishCeltGuy because: (no reason given)




posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: ScepticScot

And it is a fact, black youths are vastly disproportionately stabbing people to death than Asians or white folk.
Do you disagree?

EDIT
In London.


Which is meaningless figure with out context.



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: ScepticScot

You've explained nothing. Black youths are disproportionately stabbing more people to death than any other demographic, fact.
I haven't said skin colour is the reason, just stated a fact that black youths are more stabby in London than whites or Asians.
It's a fact, not a racist comment. If it wasn't a fact it would be racist, but it is, so sharing the fact is not a racist position.
Lame arsed accusations of racism, pathetic ffs.


I would be more inclined to believe you if it wasn't for your desperate scrabbling to discount any other reason.

As it is I think racist is pretty accurate.


I think it is a bit wrong to label someone a racist, when they clearly are not. It seems to be an easy card yo pull out when losing a debate.

What he said has nothing to do with being racist!


No I think racist is entirely accurate for someone who seems to believe that race determines 'stabyness'.


But he is not saying that! Certain areas in the country is different. In Liverpool, a lot of game crime is white. Does that mean if I pulled up those statistics, I am a racist?

It is a rediculas way of labelling something a racist!



It's exactly he said and has refused to clarify any different despitr being asked to on multiple posts.


I understood what he said and meant, and not once did I think it was racist! You need to stop throwing that word around, it is wrong!

It is like I said about the Liverpool gangs. Does that make me racist against whites?



Will stop saying racist when people stop being racist.

Depends, do you think the violence is caused by the skin colour and reject out of hand any other explanation?


Off course not! , but he is not even saying that! Not once did he say it was because of their colour!


When you repeatedly say backs commit more stabbings and discount any explanation that is what you are saying,


You are twisting his words! He said in a specific area in the UK. He did not say everywhere. Just lime there are communities in the UK where a lot of crime is by whites.

What don't you understand? You are putting words into someone's mouth to make them sound like a racist. That is just not right! and I hope other people on this thread see that!


Didn't put words into his mouth. Quoted exactly what he said.


No you have not! So, am I a racist too?


If you think that skin colour is anyway a determining factor in crime then yes. Do you?


See! You are not listening! He did not say that it was to do with skin colour! He has said exactly the same thing I have said. Do not call me a racist, because you will lose this debate, and the hole will be too big to dig yourself out of!



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: ScepticScot

And it is a fact, black youths are vastly disproportionately stabbing people to death than Asians or white folk.
Do you disagree?

EDIT
In London.


Which is meaningless figure with out context.

Do you disagree with the police stats previously posted after a freedom of information request?



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: ScepticScot

And it is a fact, black youths are vastly disproportionately stabbing people to death than Asians or white folk.
Do you disagree?

EDIT
In London.


Which is meaningless figure with out context.

Do you disagree with the police stats previously posted after a freedom of information request?


No just saying its a meaningless figure in isolation.

Still puzzled to why the City of London police. Do you have a link?



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: ScepticScot

You've explained nothing. Black youths are disproportionately stabbing more people to death than any other demographic, fact.
I haven't said skin colour is the reason, just stated a fact that black youths are more stabby in London than whites or Asians.
It's a fact, not a racist comment. If it wasn't a fact it would be racist, but it is, so sharing the fact is not a racist position.
Lame arsed accusations of racism, pathetic ffs.


I would be more inclined to believe you if it wasn't for your desperate scrabbling to discount any other reason.

As it is I think racist is pretty accurate.


I think it is a bit wrong to label someone a racist, when they clearly are not. It seems to be an easy card yo pull out when losing a debate.

What he said has nothing to do with being racist!


No I think racist is entirely accurate for someone who seems to believe that race determines 'stabyness'.


But he is not saying that! Certain areas in the country is different. In Liverpool, a lot of game crime is white. Does that mean if I pulled up those statistics, I am a racist?

It is a rediculas way of labelling something a racist!



It's exactly he said and has refused to clarify any different despitr being asked to on multiple posts.


I understood what he said and meant, and not once did I think it was racist! You need to stop throwing that word around, it is wrong!

It is like I said about the Liverpool gangs. Does that make me racist against whites?



Will stop saying racist when people stop being racist.

Depends, do you think the violence is caused by the skin colour and reject out of hand any other explanation?


Off course not! , but he is not even saying that! Not once did he say it was because of their colour!


When you repeatedly say backs commit more stabbings and discount any explanation that is what you are saying,


You are twisting his words! He said in a specific area in the UK. He did not say everywhere. Just lime there are communities in the UK where a lot of crime is by whites.

What don't you understand? You are putting words into someone's mouth to make them sound like a racist. That is just not right! and I hope other people on this thread see that!


Didn't put words into his mouth. Quoted exactly what he said.


No you have not! So, am I a racist too?


If you think that skin colour is anyway a determining factor in crime then yes. Do you?


See! You are not listening! He did not say that it was to do with skin colour! He has said exactly the same thing I have said. Do not call me a racist, because you will lose this debate, and the hole will be too big to dig yourself out of!


How exactly does the point system work in this debate? And how am I digging a hole commenting on a online forum?



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: elysiumfire
London is not England, it has changed into a multicultural cesspool and has lost all connection to the rest of the country. .


Be nice. Once the EU takes its subsidies away, London will be the only thing keeping the rest of the country in pies and fags.



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:15 PM
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originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: elysiumfire
London is not England, it has changed into a multicultural cesspool and has lost all connection to the rest of the country. .


Be nice. Once the EU takes its subsidies away, London will be the only thing keeping the rest of the country in pies and fags.


You know the EU takes more money from the UK tax payer than it ever hands back, right?

I guess not, judging by the above.



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:16 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
Still puzzled to why the City of London police. Do you have a link?

Still puzzled why you like to make me out racist, but whatever, I posted links earlier, find them yourself if you wanna bitch in this thread.

EDIT
You saw those links lol
edit on 3-4-2018 by CornishCeltGuy because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Still puzzled to why the City of London police. Do you have a link?

Still puzzled why you like to make me out racist, but whatever, I posted links earlier, find them yourself if you wanna bitch in this thread.

EDIT
You saw those links lol


Strangely evasive answer.

Is it possible your figures only relate to the City of London?



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:25 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Still puzzled to why the City of London police. Do you have a link?

Still puzzled why you like to make me out racist, but whatever, I posted links earlier, find them yourself if you wanna bitch in this thread.

EDIT
You saw those links lol


Strangely evasive answer.

Is it possible your figures only relate to the City of London?

You got links to new information?
Share it with the class!



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Metropolitan Police may have been a more representative choice perhaps?
edit on 3-4-2018 by skalla because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Still puzzled to why the City of London police. Do you have a link?

Still puzzled why you like to make me out racist, but whatever, I posted links earlier, find them yourself if you wanna bitch in this thread.

EDIT
You saw those links lol


Strangely evasive answer.

Is it possible your figures only relate to the City of London?

You got links to new information?
Share it with the class!


Yep looks like you are trying to compare city of London crime figures with London population figures.

How embarrassing for you. Do you want to get the correct figures and come back?



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot
Whatever dude, why not just wish to help a community faraway?



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:51 PM
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originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: ScepticScot
Whatever dude, why not just wish to help a community faraway?


Genuinely no idea what you mean.



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: skalla
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Metropolitan Police may have been a more representative choice perhaps?

Hmm in retrospect you are right....you always nail it with your delivery!




posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I'm often a dick. Your sample size is all wrong again



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 04:59 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: ScepticScot
Whatever dude, why not just wish to help a community faraway?


Genuinely no idea what you mean.


...wish for more services going into stabby areas to protect people.
I'd pay more tax for that.



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: ScepticScot

You've explained nothing. Black youths are disproportionately stabbing more people to death than any other demographic, fact.
I haven't said skin colour is the reason, just stated a fact that black youths are more stabby in London than whites or Asians.
It's a fact, not a racist comment. If it wasn't a fact it would be racist, but it is, so sharing the fact is not a racist position.
Lame arsed accusations of racism, pathetic ffs.


I would be more inclined to believe you if it wasn't for your desperate scrabbling to discount any other reason.

As it is I think racist is pretty accurate.


I think it is a bit wrong to label someone a racist, when they clearly are not. It seems to be an easy card yo pull out when losing a debate.

What he said has nothing to do with being racist!


No I think racist is entirely accurate for someone who seems to believe that race determines 'stabyness'.


But he is not saying that! Certain areas in the country is different. In Liverpool, a lot of game crime is white. Does that mean if I pulled up those statistics, I am a racist?

It is a rediculas way of labelling something a racist!



It's exactly he said and has refused to clarify any different despitr being asked to on multiple posts.


I understood what he said and meant, and not once did I think it was racist! You need to stop throwing that word around, it is wrong!

It is like I said about the Liverpool gangs. Does that make me racist against whites?



Will stop saying racist when people stop being racist.

Depends, do you think the violence is caused by the skin colour and reject out of hand any other explanation?


Off course not! , but he is not even saying that! Not once did he say it was because of their colour!


When you repeatedly say backs commit more stabbings and discount any explanation that is what you are saying,


You are twisting his words! He said in a specific area in the UK. He did not say everywhere. Just lime there are communities in the UK where a lot of crime is by whites.

What don't you understand? You are putting words into someone's mouth to make them sound like a racist. That is just not right! and I hope other people on this thread see that!


Didn't put words into his mouth. Quoted exactly what he said.


No you have not! So, am I a racist too?


If you think that skin colour is anyway a determining factor in crime then yes. Do you?


See! You are not listening! He did not say that it was to do with skin colour! He has said exactly the same thing I have said. Do not call me a racist, because you will lose this debate, and the hole will be too big to dig yourself out of!


How exactly does the point system work in this debate? And how am I digging a hole commenting on a online forum?


Ok, did he say black people are involved in more knife crime becsuse they are black? Did he say that, if so, please quote that to me.

All he has said is the same example I gave you about Liverpool gangs being mostly white. Does that make me racists against white people?

He has stated time and time again on this thread that it is a community thing, and it is. Where I was born (Luton) has a huge asian community, esp in one area of luton. In thst area, most crime is done by Asians. Does thst make me racist saying that?

Of course it does Not!



posted on Apr, 3 2018 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot

When you focus on skin colour rather than poverty or other factors that genuinely contribute to crime then yes it is racist.


That is a hard thing to determine...If I say it is black culture in America...the word black is used and so one would say I'm a racist because I used a color to identify a group of people that just happen to be black with a culture that encourages the gang lifestyle.



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