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Ted Olsen and flight 77 the phone calls that never were.

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posted on Apr, 5 2018 @ 03:12 PM
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a reply to: CajunMetal

The Manhattan Project was full of holes. It's always held up as being proof of how you can keep something secret, and yet it's come out as being absolutely full of leaks. In 2014 a report showed that there were over 1500 leaks of information from the program.

From the official history of the program:


"Since September 1943, investigations were conducted of more than 1,500 'loose talk' or leakage of information cases and corrective action was taken in more than 1,200 violations of procedures for handling classified material…. Complete security of information could be achieved only by following all leaks to their source."



1) A Naval lieutenant at a dinner party in March 1945 openly wondered "when we would use the atomic bomb," adding that "only about ten pounds of U-235 are needed to end the war." He also said that "several thousand persons were working on it in Tennessee."



2) In the fall of 1944, an employee of a New York firm, doing engineering work for the project, was taking a train from New York to Oak Ridge carrying a highly secret file of engineering details. He arrived at Penn Station with several minutes to spare before the train departed, so he used the time to make a last minute call to his wife from a telephone booth.

After finishing the call, he headed for the train and discovered that he didn't have the secret papers with him. He decided to catch the train, so he called his office and requested that someone come down to the station to look for the papers. The security agent for the company rushed to the station and made a frantic search, finally locating them at the information booth. The employee who had lost the papers was ordered to return to New York, where he was "soundly reprimanded" and fired by the company.



3) One case concerned a pamphlet titled Startling Power. In the winter of 1945, a patent engineer secured a copy of the pamphlet, which had been published by the Good News Publishing Company in Chicago and was distributed by the Moody Bible Institute. The pamphlet declared that, "Uranium 235, extracted from natural uranium ore, promises to make all of our power sources mere child's toys by comparison. Professor John R. Dunning, Columbia University Leader in Atomic Energy Research, has stated that the natural substances from which Uranium 285 is extracted abound abundantly in the earth and throughout many sections of the world." However, the pamphlet continued, "We must not overlook the far more vital and assured fact that God has given to Christians the gift of the Holy Spirit with energies far more dynamic than those of exploding atoms or mysterious elements."

Upon reading this pamphlet, the patent engineer concluded that U-235 merited investigation by his company. His boss contacted the prominent physicist Arthur Compton to find out more about the potential applications of uranium, which triggered an investigation. Security officials were relieved to learn the source of the inquiry was a harmless reading of a religious tract.



4) An employee at Oak Ridge wrote a letter to her uncle, telling him the war would be over quickly, when "the product" being produced was finally used. Unfortunately, she dropped the letter on a bus prior to mailing it. She admitted to intelligence agents that, in her position as a confidential secretary, she had "acquired considerable information about the work of the project, but had been very foolish to reveal any of the information to her uncle." She was fired.


io9.gizmodo.com...




posted on Apr, 5 2018 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58


That's the problem some things that get too big, get full of leaks, any whistleblower has to be stopped, it gets so bad you have to take control of the news networks as well. So lets have a recap, G.W.Bush was having Lunch with the Bin Laden's on the morning of nine eleven. What are the odds that the guy 's brother who got blamed was having lunch with the Presidents Father.???



posted on Apr, 5 2018 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

And what are the odds that Clinton would reduce the ability of the US military to respond to an event like this in the 1990s? You can find ties to all sorts of things if you look hard enough.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 09:04 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jesushere

The plane does not have stairs. Period. That means "upstairs" means something else. You seem to believe that anyone that makes mistakes is proof of a false event, and that in the real thing everything would be said perfectly and no mistakes would be made. That's far from the truth, and backwards to how it would be.

As for the door, there would have been some initial confusion as the hijackers were herding everyone to the back of the plane, where one person, if they were near the cockpit could try to get into the cockpit and find out the door was blocked.


She spends 25 minutes on the phone according to the FBI even though only 4 minutes got released. Why not release the full transcript of the conversation? She would not tell reservations where she was seated when asked, silence, it took ages to get a response from her. Her conversation has many mistakes.

Do cell calls even work at high altitudes in 2001?



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 09:23 AM
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Gotta love conspiracy theorists. Looking for a tiny corner of wallpaper to pick at while completely ignoring the 900ft wall of perfectly hung paper




posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: Jesushere

The aircraft had phones in the back of the seat.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 10:20 AM
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She spends 25 minutes on the phone according to the FBI even though only 4 minutes got released.

My bet would be most of it was silence due to hiding the phone from the hijackers view.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 11:09 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jesushere

The aircraft had phones in the back of the seat.


I think why people are suspicious of the phone calls is the dead silence you hear nothing. It like they are nobody else on the plane with them, no noise no screaming nobody frightened people. Also, the lack of full transcripts of all the phones calls is another problem. We know on 9/11 the US military was faking terrorist hijackings using planes. Are those phone calls scripted? I not ruling out they are all genuine phone calls, but something we should consider?



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 11:24 AM
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originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Jesushere




She spends 25 minutes on the phone according to the FBI even though only 4 minutes got released.

My bet would be most of it was silence due to hiding the phone from the hijackers view.


Originally the FBI said the phone calls were made on a cell. They later at the Moussani trial claimed 35 calls from airphones, 2 cell phone calls. The loved ones have not all agreed with the FBI they claim they saw a cell phone ID on their phone on 9/11



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: Jesushere

Most people during a hijacking aren't going to be screaming and making a lot of noise, once the initial event is over. The crew is going to work to keep them calm and fairly quiet, and try to keep them safe.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 05:18 PM
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Bush Meeting with Bin Laden's brother ...??

Osama Bin Laden father had 54 children by 22 wives

The meeting in question was a gathering of 500 investors of the Carlyle Group at the Washington Ritz Carlton

Bush made a brief appearance before leaving for another engagement



Carlyle emerged from the shadows in spite of itself on September 11, 2001. That day, the group had organized a meeting at Washington's Ritz Carlton Hotel with five hundred of its largest investors. Frank Carlucci and James Baker III played masters of ceremony. George Bush senior made a lightning appearance at the beginning of the day. The presentation was quickly interrupted, but one detail escaped no one. One of the guests wore the name bin Ladin on his badge. It was Shafiq bin Ladin, one of Osama's many brothers.


So he and Bin Laden's brother were in the same room..... A very large room .........

Wow - stop the presses we have a scoop of biblical magnitude ........




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posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 07:12 PM
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claim they saw a cell phone ID on their phone on 9/11

Exactly what should have caller id shown back in 2001?



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 07:54 PM
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a reply to: Zaphod58

But they were no longer connected and couldn't be used anymore. According to the airlines.



posted on Apr, 6 2018 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: anonentity

No, the airline said they weren't sure when they were disconnected. They were being phased out but there weren't all done at once.


Airline grounds in-flight phone service
American Airlines is scrapping some of those phones built into the seats of airplanes, and it's blaming it all on the popularity of cell phones.

by
Updated: February 6, 2002 5:21 PM PST



American Airlines will discontinue its AT&T in-flight phone service by March 31, a spokesman for the airline said Wednesday.


www.cnet.com...

There was more than one phone company working on the seatback phones. They weren't all cancelled at once.



posted on Apr, 7 2018 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Jesushere




claim they saw a cell phone ID on their phone on 9/11

Exactly what should have caller id shown back in 2001?


A person cell number would appear on the recipient phone? If a seatback phone is used an unknown number would likely appear on the recipient phone?



posted on Apr, 7 2018 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Jesushere

Most people during a hijacking aren't going to be screaming and making a lot of noise, once the initial event is over. The crew is going to work to keep them calm and fairly quiet, and try to keep them safe.


Not after hearing planes are after smashing into the twin towers.

Did the people onboard the flight crashing at the Pentagon hear about planes crashing into the Twin Towers? If you hear about it that you might as well just risk it all and overpower the hijackers. I have to look at the passenger list but was their men onboard? I have only seen reference only two people made a call on Flight 77 a Barbara Olson and a flight stewardess. There was 58 alleged passengers onboard this flight why did only 1 passenger try to ring a loved one kind of strange?
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posted on Apr, 7 2018 @ 01:43 PM
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What do you not understand about being held hostage, and violent hijackers trying to control the kidnapped?

Maybe Olson could not get to the other passengers to warn them of what her husband told her? Maybe Olson was found out by the terrorists and silenced? How many hijackings before 9/11 intensionally crashed the aircraft?


I find it odd conspiracists hardly ever target Renee May’s phone call.



posted on Apr, 7 2018 @ 02:08 PM
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a reply to: Jesushere

Which is what Flight 93 did. The difference between Flight 77 and Flight 93 was that 77 had the full team of hijackers, where 93 was short at least one. One person can make all the difference, especially on a narrowbody aircraft.



posted on Apr, 8 2018 @ 05:10 PM
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911 is a joke in your town.



posted on Apr, 15 2018 @ 06:58 PM
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a reply to: employ21


Why is Floyd the(Taxi driver) evidence not considered? Was he not caught on camera admitting to being part of the planning for the false flag?




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