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if it is possible then how can it be unnatural?

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posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: howtonhawky



made them up from what

you just said erything is natural

either you believe that or notsies



if you say so man

i guess you and i are just operating on different levels or something
i just dont think you get what i am saying....
its cool




posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock


Yea folks that are otherwise "gay" can procreate but only when having natural hetro sex.


correct.

in most debates though it usually winds up at the argument that homosexuals can not have kids and pass on their copies.
its simply not true.
both are possible



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:04 PM
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oh and those little pearls of wisdom they love to share are full of info and power

they will lie to your own power and seed your mind with lies

so lovin anudder man is cool but makin love to anudder man is deadly in the long run for most

it is what it is

all bout the power of the seed

since u cant see the power your debt tells you it is not there



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears


if it is possible then how can it be unnatural?

If we can justify it, how can it be wrong? Especially nowadays when we are guilty of every crime under the sun.

Defendant: It was the natural thing to do.

Edit: I see the thread is focusing on 'preferences', my comment is in general terms.
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posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears

Everything you are talking about is to further the survival of the species. You are kind of proving incosrv POV.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:07 PM
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originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: TinySickTears


if it is possible then how can it be unnatural?

If we can justify it, how can it be wrong? Especially nowadays when we are guilty of every crime under the sun.

Defendant: It was the natural thing to do.


even with that though.
guilty of crimes.
they are crimes because we imagined them up as crimes.

crime. laws. morality. religion. etc are all relatively modern constructs.
when you look at the past couple million years.

but we live in todays world. we have to play by the imagined rules...



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
a reply to: TinySickTears

Everything you are talking about is to further the survival of the species. You are kind of proving incosrv POV.


im not proving or claiming to prove anything.
ive just been balls deep in this topic lately and been thinking about and want to see how others feel.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Logarock


Yea folks that are otherwise "gay" can procreate but only when having natural hetro sex.


correct.

in most debates though it usually winds up at the argument that homosexuals can not have kids and pass on their copies.
its simply not true.
both are possible



LOL no not correct. Gay may be gay but procreation is a hetro function.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock



LOL no not correct. Gay may be gay but procreation is a hetro function.


thats not correct.
gay people have kids all the time

you do not have to be heterosexual to have kids



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: TinySickTears


but we live in todays world. we have to play by the imagined rules...

Yah, drive in the opposite direction on roads, run people down, get a gun and kill as many people as you can... todays world, its the natural thing to do. Good luck with that amoral perspective.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:16 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: wildespace

again
homosexuals can have kids.
happens all the time

i suppose if anything was natures mistake it would be people born infertile.

gay people can procreate.


Only through IVF treatment, which is a modern invention and didn't exist in the past.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: intrptr

i understand what youre saying but we are simply not talking about the same things

its fine. im just talking out loud anyway



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:17 PM
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originally posted by: wildespace

Only through IVF treatment, which is a modern invention and didn't exist in the past.


this is not correct either

a gay man can have sex with a woman and have a child
only through IVF
funny

# a gay man can even have sex with a gay woman and have a child
thats a doozey
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posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:19 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: Logarock



LOL no not correct. Gay may be gay but procreation is a hetro function.


thats not correct.
gay people have kids all the time

you do not have to be heterosexual to have kids


I love how these people will complain about overpopulation and "entitlements" yet put down any action that doesn't work towards procreation.

Who says that's the goal?! Countless hetero couples choose not to have children. Are they also "unnatural"?



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: wildespace

again
homosexuals can have kids.
happens all the time

i suppose if anything was natures mistake it would be people born infertile.

gay people can procreate.




Yea folks that are otherwise "gay" can procreate but only when having natural hetro sex.


But wouldn't "gay" folks having natural hetero sex be unnatural.

In Texas we inseminate cattle with long plastic tubes, it's quite a spectacle actually.

edit on 31-3-2018 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha

I love how these people will complain about overpopulation and "entitlements" yet put down any action that doesn't work towards procreation.

Who says that's the goal?! Countless hetero couples choose not to have children. Are they also "unnatural"?


it is not the goal for everyone and i do not think it is unnatural at all.

as a species though passing on genes is the end goal but every single person does not have to pass their genes on for the species to survive.
some people have many kids. some have none. some choose not to and some cant even if they wanted to.

with all those possibilities we are doing pretty good at propagating the species

and the people that complain and use that argument just dont approve if it morally. its one of the few lame ass arguments they have against it



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:25 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: wildespace

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homosexuals can have kids.
happens all the time

i suppose if anything was natures mistake it would be people born infertile.

gay people can procreate.




Yea folks that are otherwise "gay" can procreate but only when having natural hetro sex.


But wouldn't "gay" folks having natural hetero sex be unnatural.


if its possible wouldnt it be natural?



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:32 PM
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You are assuming
It's not a good idea
What you see as natural is your definition, mine is different
What makes your definition correct outside of your perceived belief system

It's a fair argument but it doesn't make it correct

Hitler had power and used that power to destroy the weak, only natural? If we are animals? Maybe?



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:34 PM
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originally posted by: TinySickTears

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: TinySickTears
a reply to: wildespace

again
homosexuals can have kids.
happens all the time

i suppose if anything was natures mistake it would be people born infertile.

gay people can procreate.




Yea folks that are otherwise "gay" can procreate but only when having natural hetro sex.


But wouldn't "gay" folks having natural hetero sex be unnatural.


if its possible wouldnt it be natural?



Yes, about as natural as when we use plastic tubes to make cow babies. That's the procedure out by Idalou Texas anyway. We drink beer when we do it that way and some of the Cowboys bring their guitars and sing.
edit on 31-3-2018 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:38 PM
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jew figure it out yet man?

nat·u·ral
ˈnaCH(ə)rəl/Submit
adjective
1.
existing in or caused by nature; not made or caused by humankind.

pos·si·ble
ˈpäsəb(ə)l/Submit
adjective
1.
able to be done; within the power or capacity of someone or something.
synonyms: feasible, practicable, practical, viable, within the bounds/realms of possibility, attainable, achievable, workable; informaldoable
noun
1.
a person or thing that has the potential to become or do something, especially a potential candidate for a job or membership on a team.

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