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I am a Liberal Humanistic Eco-Glocalist

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posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 10:24 AM
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It's true I'm that kind of tree hugging hippy. In case you wonder what that means:
I firmly believe in fairtrade.
Glocalist is no mistake it means global and local merging. I support sepperatistic movements, like Catalonia, Scotland, California,... ultimately it only makes sense these regions make politics for their regions based on their needs and not because it has to adjust to something which is so much compromise it does no good for nobody. But I also like that I can buy goods from all over the world.
I know I don't have to explain liberal but I want to cut that down to socially liberal. Less criminalisation of lifestyle choices.
And humanistic because I believe a countries most important ressource are innovative, educated, happy people.

Here I am your worst enemy.
(I hope not I'm kind of nice I swear!)




posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

Agree with at least a good part of this


You aren't my worst enemy Peeple. You are intelligent, well spoken and have some interesting ideas/ideology.

I also support separatist movements, because I believe that force integration of multiple cultures just won't work out. It could, in theory, if GROUP A could stop trying to force their beliefs on GROUP B through laws/government (and vice versa). However, history has shown us this simply isn't possible.

In all reality, there are AT LEAST two sides with irreconcilable differences. Despite the far-left (and far right) discussing civil war, etc there is no need for that in today's time. We have the ability to communicate our grievances and an established precedent for secession.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

That's unexpected. Thank you.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: Peeple

I can agree on Scotland and Catalonia. That is citizen driven. Populist.

California? Not so and you know it. That is agenda driven by those not yet named and not the people, from what I can see. Counter separatist movements within California are popping up. The counties who would remain in the U.S. Union and those few counties on the coast leaving.

Do you support them, as well? I'm betting not.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: nwtrucker

I can't tell if I agree or disagree because I don't know who "not yet named" is?
I think your problem is that California has a majority of political active liberal/progressive people upper middle class and upwards in a global comparison. And you are maybe not? But live there?



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 10:59 AM
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I'm on your train for the most part, hippy with california origins, think globally, act locally, whirled peas etc



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: Harpua

What are whirled peas?
But yeah I think if people would feel more involved in their environment and really could make a difference in a democratic way, like the Brexit referendum, the Catalonian Independence vote, ... we can make it a law you have to accept it for four years before you can bring it up again, but it's a topic for the people.
Even tough "we" lost as I identify pro local regions taking care of themselves. Get rid of the nations except maybe for sports and join continental and ultimately global trade networks.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 11:11 AM
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I'm the Batman. Good to meet ya.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 11:23 AM
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originally posted by: intrepid
I'm the Batman. Good to meet ya.


Did you type that in a really really deep voice?



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 11:33 AM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: nwtrucker

I can't tell if I agree or disagree because I don't know who "not yet named" is?
I think your problem is that California has a majority of political active liberal/progressive people upper middle class and upwards in a global comparison. And you are maybe not? But live there?


I used to live there. I left and many I know have, as well. Having said that, I completely believe that this effort-I can't call it a movement as there seems little to no grass-root support- has to have non-California backing. That's my conclusion, but I don't know anyone else that sees it that way, though.

I say 'not named yet' in the sense that if I'm correct, the backing is not only not known, it's not even being looked into.

I further believe that if my suspicion is correct then the game plan is to encourage the departure of both citizens that would vote against it and those businesses that would donate campaign funds against them, as well. Not only in spite of the fiscal damage that would entail but to deliberately cause a financial disaster. Bizarre as that sounds.

Add in the sanctuary status that draws both illegals already inside the U.S. and those intending to enter the U.S. and as they automatically are given California IDs which allow for registration for voting, a rapid increase of voting base is developed while those against are actually departing.

Pure speculation on my part. I can't find any conflicting points that would cause me to doubt it, though.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: Peeple




I am a Liberal Humanistic Eco-Glocalist


It’s always best to describe oneself with adjectives instead of nouns.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: LesMisanthrope

I also try to stay flexible...



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

Preach it!

On a national level, I'm more libertarian but, on a local level, I'm socialist as hell. And I have always been behind separatist movements that are driven by best meeting the needs of all sides (economic and social legislation, etc).

I always thought that, in a perfect decentralized America, Ron Paul would be the perfect president and I'd want Bernie Sanders as the governor of my state.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:09 PM
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a reply to: Abysha

Amen Sister. I mean that in the best empowering way.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Peeple




I am a Liberal Humanistic Eco-Glocalist


It’s always best to describe oneself with adjectives instead of nouns.


Like "petty" and "sanctimonious"?



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:24 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
It's true I'm that kind of tree hugging hippy. In case you wonder what that means:
I firmly believe in fairtrade.
Glocalist is no mistake it means global and local merging. I support sepperatistic movements, like Catalonia, Scotland, California,... ultimately it only makes sense these regions make politics for their regions based on their needs and not because it has to adjust to something which is so much compromise it does no good for nobody. But I also like that I can buy goods from all over the world.
I know I don't have to explain liberal but I want to cut that down to socially liberal. Less criminalisation of lifestyle choices.
And humanistic because I believe a countries most important ressource are innovative, educated, happy people.

Here I am your worst enemy.
(I hope not I'm kind of nice I swear!)



This almost sounds like a republic of States to form the most perfect union where the States have big Government foot print to govern for the people there and the Federal Government is a very small foot print...


I be for that Hippy...



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: Abysha

Abysha, I too am a Libertarian and fiscally/legally conservative but socially liberal. Of course no politics/ideology exists in a vacuum, and on many social issues I consider myself rather liberal whereas others I lean more conservative or even have no strong opinion one way or the other

Not in the sense that I personally approve of or even like a lot of things "liberals" support, but my libertarian beliefs tell me that my personal opinion means nothing and that supporting all rights for all people at all times is *most* right (at least IMO) instead of trying to put my feelings/opinions/beliefs into law that others must follow -or else-

I guess what I'm saying is that despite my personal support of Pres. Trump, I would defend others' right to criticism him to my last breath

Or your right to have an abortion
...to speak truth to power
...to publish material unflattering to USGOV
...to live unabridged by arbitrary tyrants and dictators
...to criticize me or my beliefs or the things I hold dear
...to live free from arbitrary discrimination
...to petition the government for a redress of grievances

The one thing I would never support is your right to abridge my rights (or vice versa of course!)

(I say "your" and "my" but I mean that in a broad sense, not you/I specifically)

In my personal opinion, there is nothing more "liberal" than supporting all individual rights for all people. There is nothing more "conservative" than ensuring our Constitutional rights are conserved and protected. And there is nothing more "libertarian" than advocating for the same.

Our political ideologies (or point on the spectrum of politics) are in fact inter-sectional, as many have been saying rightfully for years. And while we differ in particular implementation, we could go a long way by simply respecting the rights of others and not expecting others to change their close held beliefs simply because we ask them to.

This is why I support popular movements for secession. Not because I want to see our union fractured, our house divided... but because I firmly believe that every individual has the *right* to live free of interference by others (through government/legislation) and the *right* to self determination. The ability to write your own destiny/life story, instead of somebody else dictating it to you




posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

The word you're looking for when you say "you/I" is us.



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

Ah, yes


Thank you Peeple



posted on Mar, 31 2018 @ 01:10 PM
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originally posted by: Abysha

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
a reply to: Peeple




I am a Liberal Humanistic Eco-Glocalist


It’s always best to describe oneself with adjectives instead of nouns.


Like "petty" and "sanctimonious"?


Yes. Those who cannot accurately describe themselves need to disguise themselves in nouns and labels.


edit on 31-3-2018 by LesMisanthrope because: (no reason given)



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