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The Secret Military Moon Base Probably Actually Exists

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posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: jidnum

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: jidnum

How many mapping and photographing missions to the moon since the sixties?


How many photos were doctored?


Why would Russian, Chinese, and Japan mission specialists doctor mapping photos to hide a US military base?

A Chinese space station is being tracked as it’s orbit decays? Don’t you think Russia and China would track anything launched from the earth to the moon?




posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

I would have a serious lack of confidence in our military forces if there WASN'T a secret U.S. base(s) on our moon.

I think it's rediculous to think that the one most advantageous military strategic location in our immediate vicinity wasn't taken advantage of.

Maybe they build/built a giant laser on the back side's surface, and aggravate the gravity anomalies on the front side, in order to turn the moon's laser towards earth to destroy any locations that oppose a future New Order.

Imagine if they named that plan "Star Wars"...


....hey WAIT A SECOND!...

Daaaaamn youuuu Krennnniccc!


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posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
You do not have a credible or plausible theory.


Myself and many others have posited many good points of why it could be possible, and in a lot of ways, it seems far less reasonable to consider we haven't one. If we don't have one it makes humanity look very lazy and irrational.

Whether it is 'plausible' or not is in the eye of the beholder clearly - because you seem to be in utter disbelief and are holding me personally responsible for manifesting a moon base. Other people seem to be pretty comfortable with speculating based on what information we do have and appreciating the concept that it probably could be really there.

You try to make it sound like if it was there we'd have all this proof and it'd be impossible to hide but, it seems to me that most people feel like hardly anyone's even looking to begin with and that it'd probably be really easy to hide any evidence of it from mainstream Earth life.

It's all a matter of opinion in the end because it is ultimately requiring you to speculate.
If we had the end all be all evidence we'd all know.

I think the people of ATS have spoken and agree that this was a good topic with some good tidbits of info to think about and consider. A few people didn't like it. But hey I can't please everyone all the time. There will always be someone with a problem. In this case I think you are just personally involved and that it's not about facts or evidence but instead it's about a personal issue, it's emotional to you.



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 03:53 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: rickymouse
Well, how are they supposed to be secret if people keep talking about them.


Aliens have a head start on us at the moon and also in Antarctica.


We are the aliens when we go to the moon and antartica. Antartica's only citizens are penguins.



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
For more prospective in the context of an underground base, a tunnel boring machine weighs around 1,000 tons? And if they dug tunnels on the moon, how have they hid the removed soil from photographing missions of the moon?


A nuclear powered boring machine GLASSES the material it goes through eliminating the need to remove debris.



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 04:30 PM
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You guys know there are bases all over our moon, right?

Here is the best video Ive found so far. Real good definition.




posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 04:31 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: rickymouse
Well, how are they supposed to be secret if people keep talking about them.


Aliens have a head start on us at the moon and also in Antarctica.


We are the aliens when we go to the moon and antartica. Antartica's only citizens are penguins.


Hey Ricky, what is that in your avatar? A hammer?



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: neutronflux
For more prospective in the context of an underground base, a tunnel boring machine weighs around 1,000 tons? And if they dug tunnels on the moon, how have they hid the removed soil from photographing missions of the moon?


A nuclear powered boring machine GLASSES the material it goes through eliminating the need to remove debris.


How does glassing make mass disappear? It would just back file the tunnel. Can you say fukushima levels of radiation?



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 05:30 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

And you cannot answer a simple question! Was the study you referred to for a subsurface base? Yet photographing missions reveal no base? Read the study?

How long was the supposed base there?

Your points are fantasy with no factual or logical points, nor based in reality.

Again, what shields your proposed nuclear reactor to prevent detection?
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posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 05:54 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

If I want fantasy, I read science fiction. Pushing fanciful innuendo as fact is not fighting ignorance. Confusing fantasy as fact does not help to getting to the reality of a subject.



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 05:57 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: muzzleflash

Why don’t you make a f-n logical argument and cite actual physical evidence? Or answer a question leveled at you?

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Holy crap, man. It could be argued that you sound like a crazy psychopath with the way you are angrily and frenzily trying to convince everyone that there is NO POSSIBILITY of a moon base.

Legitimate question: why ARE you so angry and so desperate to refute the speculation of a moon base?

And to be fair, Muzzleflash HAS been answering your questions. He answers your question and then you come back and throw 5 or 10 more questions at him and claim that he didn't answer these NEW questions that you just tossed out. Also, many of your questions are addressed in the documents he provided, which you clearly haven't read. Go and read them, why don't you?

No really- why don't you??



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 06:21 PM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: muzzleflash

If I want fantasy, I read science fiction. Pushing fanciful innuendo as fact is not fighting ignorance. Confusing fantasy as fact does not help to getting to the reality of a subject.


I didn't present fantasy as fact.

I didn't even present speculation as fact.

I used language that clearly delineated the difference.

Even the title says "Probably"....



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 06:25 PM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Project Horizon and Lunex are proposed as Underground.



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 06:30 PM
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originally posted by: muzzleflash
a reply to: neutronflux

Project Horizon and Lunex are proposed as Underground.


With no landing pads and surface control stations?



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 06:39 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

Thanks so much for putting that together.
Outstanding ATS content here, and a welcome break from all of the political threads.

I have been up in the air about this subject for so long, like many others. It is just mind boggling that we would have the Apollo program running simultaneously when these bases were supposedly being built... and the question of who else was there as well.. and then all of the lying and collusion that would certainly ensue...

If indeed, there is any truth in it.. how can they possibly expose this in the future, without losing everyone's respect for the charades and dishonesty, let alone the public's right to evolve mentally and spiritually, like the chozen few who (may be) in these programs.

For those reasons, I kind of hope it is not real, but deep inside, the overwhelming "evidence" is hard to ignore.



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 06:43 PM
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originally posted by: muzzleflash

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: muzzleflash

If I want fantasy, I read science fiction. Pushing fanciful innuendo as fact is not fighting ignorance. Confusing fantasy as fact does not help to getting to the reality of a subject.


I didn't present fantasy as fact.

I didn't even present speculation as fact.

I used language that clearly delineated the difference.

Even the title says "Probably"....


Then it should be simple to state how long the base has been on the moon, and how it has avoided detection from multiple countries mapping the surface of the moon? Multiple missions that captured and studied the moon by photographing every square mile. Scrutinized the surface with radar. Studied the moon with infrared, ultraviolet?

Items have even been crashed into the mood to test its density.

How would earth lift offs not be noticed by other countries? And not tracked to the moon. Or at the very least, triggger their air defense commands?

What facilities were producing 6 million pounds of rockets and fuel? How were they shipped to launch facilities unnoticed? How was a mission needing 1000’s of people kept secret?

Not one accident over the decades? Out of something like 135 missions, two space shuttles were lost. Creating horrific atmospheric explosions?

How are people from the base returned? Were do the craft land? How big is the recovery crew and ground control crew?

Citing a wishful report is not evidence. It’s speculation. Speculation that ignores there is no physical evidence a staffed military post is on the moon.



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: charlyv

Thank you! I really enjoy the topic and enjoyed sharing with everyone here.

I am honestly totally surprised by the response from the community, it was way bigger than I anticipated.

I too like you, am very pleased to see ATS still has interest in secret projects and moon conspiracies. I've been getting a lil afraid we lost our way because the current political dramas have taken over the website for years now.



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 07:02 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

If there was still a secret on the moon, why would they declassify the plan that put that secret there?



posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 07:04 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

Half the replies in this thread are you trying to chase off and belittle persons with reasonable post as why there is no credible evidence there ever was a secret moon base?
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posted on Mar, 30 2018 @ 08:14 PM
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there is no credible evidence there ever was a secret moon base?

You know that conspiracy theories are not based on facts and evidence.
They are based on innuendo and fantasy devoid of reality.

But here's the real truth.
They used fail proof rockets with silent engines.
The rocket builders only work 3rd shift to keep it in the dark.
40 years of employees stay silent because they are happy.
None of the employees get divorced so no pissed off exe's
Death bed confessions are not allowed. It's in the rules.
There are no secret pictures because the employees don't believe in cell phones.
The Russians know but are keeping silent because we are sending them wheat.
The Chinese know but as long as we buy their cheap junk they stay silent.

A military base on the moon is prefect for a first strike because it will only take two days for a missile from moon launch to earth impact.
Defense is easy since you will have two days to rover away from base.

Have I answered all your questions?



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