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The Secret Military Moon Base Probably Actually Exists

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posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 04:43 PM
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Over the last few decades there has been significant debate over why man has not returned to the moon in half a century, if NASA actually found extra-terrestrials or abandoned ancient ruins, why NASA appears to be lying so often and even if we really ever went to the Moon at all in the first place.

There is however great evidence that the US Military secretly worked on creating multiple moon bases via multiple secret space programs. Yes, multiple parallel secret space programs!

First we'll cover the moon base concept, then I'll show you how they likely have lied to the public and been fooling people since the 1950s with clear obvious evidence that the "Secret Space Programs" have been well and alive for over 60 years. Gary McKinnon, the infamous hacker, was telling us the truth that he found evidence of Secret Space Missions.

And remember that these programs only costed a few billion dollars each and the Pentagon has been hiding the 20 Trillion Dollar Secret of unaccounted spending just since 1998, who knows what went into the black from 1950's till the late 90's?

So let's start with the basics...


Project Horizon




Project Horizon was a study to determine the feasibility of constructing a scientific / military base on the Moon. On June 8, 1959, a group at the Army Ballistic Missile Agency (ABMA) produced for the U.S. Department of the Army a report entitled Project Horizon, A U.S. Army Study for the Establishment of a Lunar Military Outpost.

The project proposal states the requirements as: "The lunar outpost is required to develop and protect potential United States interests on the moon; to develop techniques in moon-based surveillance of the earth and space, in communications relay, and in operations on the surface of the moon; to serve as a base for exploration of the moon, for further exploration into space and for military operations on the moon if required; and to support scientific investigations on the moon.[1]

The permanent outpost was predicted to cost $6 billion and become operational in December 1966 with twelve soldiers.

Wernher von Braun, head of ABMA, appointed Heinz-Hermann Koelle to head the project team at Redstone Arsenal.
Plans called for 147 early Saturn A-class rocket launches to loft spacecraft components for assembly in low Earth orbit at a spent-tank space station.

A lunar landing-and-return vehicle would have shuttled up to 16 astronauts at a time to the base and back.

Horizon never progressed past the feasibility stage in an official capacity.


I argue that Horizon most likely progressed past the feasibility stage in an UNOFFICIAL capacity. Keep in mind that the Apollo landing of 2 men on the Moon was July 20, 1969 - Project Horizon was predicted to have an operational base on the moon by December 1966! They figured they'd have it running years before Apollo 11.

This is the Air Force's LUNEX Moon base project.

Soviet Zvezda Moon Base

Project A119 to test weapons on the Moon

Remember the X-20 DynaSoar ?

The program ran from October 24, 1957 to December 10, 1963, cost US$660 million ($5.28 billion today[2]), and was cancelled just after spacecraft construction had begun.


The program was cancelled AFTER spacecraft construction began - and this was the late 50s and early 60s. It was inspired by the Nazi's Silbervogel designs from the 40s, and keep in mind that our US Space Program was led by Operation Paperclip Nazi Scientists.

Back to Project Horizon:
It would be weaponized -

The base would be defended against Soviet overland attack by man-fired weapons:
Unguided Davy Crockett rockets with low-yield nuclear warheads
Conventional Claymore mines modified to puncture pressure suits


What would it look like though? The base itself?

The basic building block for the outpost would be cylindrical metal tanks, 10 feet (3.0 m) in diameter and 20 feet (6.1 m) in length.

Two nuclear reactors would be located in pits to provide shielding and provide power for the operation of the preliminary quarters and for the equipment used in the construction of the permanent facility. Empty cargo and propellant containers would be assembled and used for storage of bulk supplies, weapons, and life essentials.

Two types of surface vehicles would be used, one for lifting, digging, and scraping, another for more extended distance trips needed for hauling, reconnaissance and rescue.

A lightweight parabolic antenna erected near the main quarters would provide communications with Earth.




At the same time the Air Force was working on developing the Manned Orbiting Laboratory, The MOL Project.


The MOL program was announced to the public on 10 December 1963 as a manned platform to prove the utility of man in space for military missions.[1] Astronauts selected for the program were later told of the reconnaissance mission for the program.[2]


They actually LAUNCHED THE MOL in 1966 - then turned around and said it was just a "test" - and then it went totally black. Top Secret.

They were already preparing for these programs in the early 60's, and seemed to have the technology already developed, for example this MOL spacesuit is from 1963.


It then says the Soviets launched 3 Almaz orbital military space stations.


Three crewed military reconnaissance stations were launched between 1973 and 1976: Salyut 2, Salyut 3 and Salyut 5. To cover the military nature of the program the three launched Almaz stations were designated as civilian Salyut space stations.


The Soviet Polyus was a weaponized spacecraft.

This is the X-20 DynaSoar (1957)


X-23 Prime

X-24 Pilot
X-24a 1969


Actual X-24b in flight, 1973.


Now it's in a museum.




The Mig 105 Spiral Soviet DynaSoar copy on display.


In the 1980s we have the X-30, which was "cancelled" despite being essentially COMPLETED!

It was cancelled in the early 1990s before a prototype was completed, although much development work in advanced materials and aerospace design was completed.




But don't worry everyone!
We have a brand new design that will get us back into space finally!
The Dream Chaser


Maybe in another 30 years the DynaSoar tech will finally be flying into space? Who knows?!


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posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 04:44 PM
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Some recent models...

X-34



X-37 OTV



By the way Vandenberg Air Force Base in California is considered one of the main launch areas of the secret Air Force Space Program. They may have other launch areas but those are more speculative while this one is definitive.

Did you know this photo is supposedly from the recent Chinese Moon program? Chang'e 2 -


Unconfirmed but if that photo is legit I bet it's the US Space Base because it was NOT there in the photographs of the same crater from 50 years earlier.

This famous photo is also a good candidate, though I cannot confirm if it's a legit pic or not.


Here are some additional Links for your reading pleasure...

NY TIMES 1989 - Pentagon Leaves Shuttle Program


The Defense Department is dismantling a secretive, coast-to-coast space complex that cost at least $5 billion and was intended to operate in collaboration with the civilian space shuttle. Over the last three years, the department has mothballed a $3.3 billion spaceport in California and scrapped a sprawling control center in Colorado. Last year, it disbanded a secret cadre of 32 astronauts based in Los Angeles.


Alternative 3 the Secret Space Program


Is there a clandestine space program designed to save the elite from a global catastrophe?


BBC Cold War Space Missions

ExoPolitics Multiple Moon Bases and Military Shuttles

Space.com Military Secret Space Program
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posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 04:50 PM
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Well, how are they supposed to be secret if people keep talking about them.



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 04:51 PM
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Well, the moon sure is a great place to hide something given that no one can see the dark side. My only question would be what advantage does having a base on the moon have and why would it need to be secret? Those questions need to be answered before any real speculation should be made.



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 04:52 PM
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Great post, saving for another read.


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posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: rickymouse
Well, how are they supposed to be secret if people keep talking about them.

I guess that explains all the rockets that amateur astronomers keep seeing shuttling back and forth between the Earth and Moon, hauling supplies and fresh personnel.

Oh, wait. Nobody sees those.


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posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

Another perspective which runs with this theme is:

Name one time, in recorded history since her birth, that the US gone somewhere and not stayed there, by force if necessary?

Given all the history and documents available regarding space flight, weapons, political domination, Reagans star wars, Area 51, Roswell, Rendalsham forest, disclosure project.........etc etc

Bases on the moon? - totally plausible.



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
My only question would be what advantage does having a base on the moon have and why would it need to be secret?

It gives your enemies three whole days to see your attack coming.

All this moon base stuff was interesting when there were only a couple of satellites in orbit. These days with low orbit crammed with all kinds of junk, the only real reason to go there is to pick Helium-3 berries to fuel Skunkworks' little fusion reactors.



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

/shrug

It’s one of the more plausible conspiracy theories out there



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: muzzleflash

For a fact, it's not on the moon lol



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:05 PM
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great thread
as far as i'm concerned it's far more likely that there is a manned presence on the moon than that there isn't.



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: Metallicus
Well, the moon sure is a great place to hide something given that no one can see the dark side. My only question would be what advantage does having a base on the moon have and why would it need to be secret? Those questions need to be answered before any real speculation should be made.


Advantage is that other countries spy satellites wouldn't see it. Lower gravity means launches require less fuel. It could also be used as a permanent observatory for viewing Earth. A crater close to the natural terminator for sunset and sunrise would be the perfect location. Get enough light for solar power, but enough darkness for telescopes.

Strange how no HD video cameras have been placed on the moon in order to investigate micro-meteorites or even to watch Earth.



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:09 PM
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originally posted by: RoScoLaz5
great thread
as far as i'm concerned it's far more likely that there is a manned presence on the moon than that there isn't.


Based on... well... nothing. I think it's far more likely we have a base on the sun than we do not. See how that works?



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:14 PM
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why would they want to be up there?

also why when someone flashes a butt do they call it a moon?



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:23 PM
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Temperatures on the moon are very hot in the daytime, about 100 degrees C. At night, the lunar surface gets very cold, as cold as minus 173 degrees C. This wide variation is because Earth's moon has no atmosphere to hold in heat at night or prevent the surface from getting so hot during the day.


What kind fuel would this station have



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:23 PM
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A crater close to the natural terminator for sunset and sunrise would be the perfect location.


Doesn't the terminator change so all parts are both lit and dark over approx 29 days.



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:30 PM
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originally posted by: ZIPMATT

Temperatures on the moon are very hot in the daytime, about 100 degrees C. At night, the lunar surface gets very cold, as cold as minus 173 degrees C. This wide variation is because Earth's moon has no atmosphere to hold in heat at night or prevent the surface from getting so hot during the day.


What kind fuel would this station have


they stay in a cave and use methane



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: Metallicus
My only question would be what advantage does having a base on the moon have and why would it need to be secret?

It gives your enemies three whole days to see your attack coming.

All this moon base stuff was interesting when there were only a couple of satellites in orbit. These days with low orbit crammed with all kinds of junk, the only real reason to go there is to pick Helium-3 berries to fuel Skunkworks' little fusion reactors.


Ahem thats IF they dont have a rail gun that can launch projectiles from the dark side to use lunar gravity to sling them even harder say bout .25 speed of light? few hours vs days prolly.



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:40 PM
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No moon base the same reason there was the moon landing .
Kind of hard to hide dozens of rocket launches per week to keep them supplied .

The massive amount of money and man power it would take to even keep a small base running would be Billions in cash and 10 s of 1000 s in man hours and 10 s of 1000 s in women hours lol .

Why is it when people dream it is so far out in left field even hank Arron could not hit a home run .
This post reads like a B grade scifi movie .

Massive base no support needed Just poofed into existence . Not like it takes years to build even a small industrial complex nore trucks running day and night to keep it going .
Supply's are beamed in



posted on Mar, 28 2018 @ 05:42 PM
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Finly we have photos of the dark side but even without them ships MUST orbit the moon before landing .
That would be kind of hard to hid dozens of orbiting ships from even a Walmart telescope .




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