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I gotta say, I find the fear and hatred a bunch of high school students can engender among adults on the right with their opinions to be pretty sad.
originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: JBurns
Im not going to get the broad brush out here...but there is something to be said about the primary mental differences between the 2 political beliefs we have in the US. One side tends to think rationally, succeeds in STEM programs, and approaches the world is a convservative social and fiscal manner. The other side thinks more with the gut (truthyness) and emotion, succeeds more in the arts than sciences, and approaches the world with a more liberal viewpoint.
Debating is not typically the bailiwick of the liberally minded, although (as referenced by my prologue about not wanting to bring out a broad brush), we can see among our own members here that the above generalizations are only generalizations and not rules. Antediluvian can debate among the best I've seen.
Anyway...i hope Hogg steps up. I don't expect him to. The bald chick, however...i could see her having the moxy to do it.
originally posted by: JBurns
a reply to: scraedtosleep
I have no problem talking about guns. But that conversations needs to be had from the standpoint that its an enshrined Constitutional right. You can't expect the population to support giving up any right (including 2A, including "bits and pieces") nor can you express anger toward said population from defending their rights.
Discuss it all you want, but the real problem isn't guns or access to guns. We have at least a million times more firearms than the UK. Our murder rate is not 1,000,000 times greater than theirs. The problem is gangs, a degenerate and amoral culture and a host of other things. Guns being the very far last item. Simply because there are plenty of other weapons (including ad hoc weapons) available to criminals. They have no problem stealing, building, smuggling or otherwise illegally acquiring them. The law hasn't stopped them yet, nor will it in the future.
So what part of that last paragraph tells you I'd be willing to consider giving up any firearm/gun right? Why give something up that is enshrined? Especially when it won't solve diddly squat.
originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: JBurns
Correct me if i'm wrong but hasn't the right been avoiding talking about guns for years?
Taste of their own medicine I'd say.
Don't forget when you comment that I am a supporter of the 2ed and don't want the government taking anything from us.